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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 12:55pm
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NBA excerps from a book they don't want you to read

From the book, "Blowing the whistle", by Tim Donaghy

Excerpts From The Book The NBA Doesn't Want You To Read - Tim Donaghy - Deadspin

Some good reading.
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 04:49pm
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Tim Donaghy's excerpts are about one-onemillionth as interesting as the one's in Earl Strom's book, "Calling The Shots".

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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 05:25pm
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Wow! Somebody please tell me this is all a bunch of made up BS.
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 06:32pm
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Wow! Somebody please tell me this is all a bunch of made up BS.
I was thinking the same thing. Wow.
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 06:46pm
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NBA response:
NBA: Any Tim Donaghy allegations will be reviewed - ESPN
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 07:12pm
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Oh good. I feel better now that I know the fox will investigate the carnage at the hen house. Kind of like the mayor of Stockton, UT conducting an investigation into whether the mayor of Stockton, UT acted improperly when he suspended a police officer for giving the mayor's son a traffic citation.

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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 06:31pm
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After the opening tip, it was hilarious as the three of us immediately focused our full attention on the intended victim, waiting for something, anything, to justify a technical foul. If the guy so much as looked at one of us and mumbled, we rang him up. Later in the referees' locker room, we would down a couple of brews, eat some chicken wings, and laugh like hell."
Great. Not only is this offensive beyond belief, but now everyone has the idea that this is the pinnacle of refereeing. Just what zebras need.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 11:15pm
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From the book, "Blowing the whistle", by Tim Donaghy

Excerpts From The Book The NBA Doesn't Want You To Read - Tim Donaghy - Deadspin

Some good reading.
I distinctly recall the talking heads mentioning some of the same things in the article.

When TD mentioned "a company man", I immediately thought of Bavetta. 20+ years of watching the NBA and patterns emerge.

Much of that article isn't surprising to me.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 11:29pm
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Surprising? Perhaps, perhaps not. But is it true? I'm not sure there's any way to know. Unless you're on the staff, how would you ever know?
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Old Sat Oct 31, 2009, 09:21am
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I hope the book gets released:

Then I hope some NBA refs sue the publisher and and the scum who wrote it. After this article there is no way the refs can get their credibility back, ever. And IMO, it is totally unjustified. It is a shame that in our society today some 2-bit gambler who is in hock up to ears and in jail, who had a great life and threw it away, can ruin a lot of other people in a "tell all" book that gets accepted as biblical truth by a bunch of cynics and frauds. And that we have media like ESPN, who makes money from both ends of the deal.

Some of you guys write like you have no clue. You write stuff about these people having no integrity, or comparing these refs to a mayor in Utah. Your cynicism plays right into the hands of all kinds of sports fans, and other people who should know better, who believe that officials cheat for some people and against others.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS?

Without going into too much arguement, it means that the next time you are on a floor, or a field, and make a controversial call at the end of a game, people who see the game will assume you are just like those NBA refs. You can't be trusted either. that kind of stuff feeds down to all levels of sport, and it is destructive to sport, just like the attitude is destructive to our country.

In a small local HS forum I follow, almost every week there is somebody complaining about how the officials cheated at the local game. Recently one of them said: "I know some people who are officials, they told me they are just in it for the money, they have no integrity."

Is that what you want your reputation to be? Is that how you want to be known.

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Old Sat Oct 31, 2009, 10:48am
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I hope the book gets released:
You obviously haven't been paying attention to the news. The publisher canceled the book, but not before some excerpts leaked out. They probably realized they had a book that had zero creditibility and didn't want to open themselves up to lawsuits that could result. That was some inflammatory libelous stuff in there.
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The Next Jose Canseco ???

What if Donaghy is the next Jose Canseco? Few people believed Canseco, yet, as it turned out, he was right on the money. Canseco told us about cheating players. Donaghy is trying to tell us about cheating officials.

As my grandmother used to say, maybe Donaghy is, "Full of prunes". Or maybe he started the next major sports controversy topic since steroids?

True, or false, it's worth looking into.
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Old Sun Nov 01, 2009, 08:55pm
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No, I read the thread

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You obviously haven't been paying attention to the news. The publisher canceled the book, but not before some excerpts leaked out. They probably realized they had a book that had zero creditibility and didn't want to open themselves up to lawsuits that could result. That was some inflammatory libelous stuff in there.
Ref Ump,

Sorry I think you are wrong. The cat is already out of the bag, whether the book is out or not. In this day and age, nobody gets the benefit of the doubt in pro sports, as our good friend BilleMac so clearly shows for all of us int he post just above this. It is clear to him: Book comes out, must be true, they are corrupt.

Most people think like him, not like officials.
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Old Sun Nov 01, 2009, 09:33pm
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I always thought the TrailBlazers- Lakers series was partly fixed for the lakers. Some of the calls then were absolutely absurd and totally turned the series around and I wasn't even a blazers fan.-- when the Blazers had Pippen, Sabonis etc. Kings fans whined about their own series with the Lakers for years.
He really is putting up things that he knows will get strong reactions. Yeah, I know the guy is a loser and so is Jose but unfortunately I'm not willing to rule out that what he is saying is false. After the Jordan Bulls years the ratings were down for a while and I just have my suspicions that the business side was put first and there were lapses in officiating that might have been directed from the top and/or done by refs who have been around for years and know extended series means more drama and better ratings.
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Old Mon Nov 02, 2009, 09:15am
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What if Donaghy is the next Jose Canseco? Few people believed Canseco, yet, as it turned out, he was right on the money. Canseco told us about cheating players. Donaghy is trying to tell us about cheating officials.

As my grandmother used to say, maybe Donaghy is, "Full of prunes". Or maybe he started the next major sports controversy topic since steroids?

True, or false, it's worth looking into.
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Ref Ump,

Sorry I think you are wrong. The cat is already out of the bag, whether the book is out or not. In this day and age, nobody gets the benefit of the doubt in pro sports, as our good friend BilleMac so clearly shows for all of us int he post just above this. It is clear to him: Book comes out, must be true, they are corrupt.
Most people think like him, not like officials.
That's your interp of BM's post? It's not how I interpret it.
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