What would you have said?

BillyMac · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 28, 2009, 04:41pm

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Originally Posted by Indianaref

At halftime or end of game, I will whip out ...

Whew. I thought that you were going to finish your statement another way.

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Back In The Saddle · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 28, 2009, 05:44pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

Whew. I thought that you were going to finish your statement another way.

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That's where I carry my written speech for my coaches/captains meeting.

Texas Aggie · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 28, 2009, 09:04pm

There's no reason to sound like its all about you. Just say, "hey, we all need to learn to trust our partners. When there's a fast break, we need to let the guy(s) on it make the call, and the other guy(s) clean anything up behind them."

DON'T get into a lecture about "staying out of my area." That's defensive, unproductive, and in many cases, its wrong. Example: a trail moving from backcourt to front court. C is at or around division line. Trail is straight-lined or only at a small angle between ball handler and defender. Dribbler, moving fast, passes the ball off, but runs into the defender for a block charge call someone needs to make. C has the perfect angle though he may be farther away and "out" of the T's area.

just another ref · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 29, 2009, 01:18am

My speech on the subject:

As a rule, if you make that call, from there, it makes us look bad, even if you're right. If you make that call, from there and you're wrong, it is truly inexcusable.

So pick your spot carefully, and if you feel you must make that call from there, do so, but be sure that you're right.

Rufus · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 29, 2009, 12:51pm

I had something this happen last year. There was a fast break and I was new L (2 whistle). Player goes up for a succesful shot with a defender on them but not making contact. I hear a whistle, look up, and see my partner standing at the midcourt line. He reports the foul, we shoot 1, and move on with life.

We talked afterward and I let him know that it wasn't a bad thing that he called the foul (maybe he saw something I didn't and I'm not going to get picky about coverage on a fast break like that), but the optics of calling it from the midcourt stripe perhaps weren't the best. He was very receptive and agreed to try and be more aware of court positioning in the future.

I think how you approach someone about this type of conversation depends on what their attitude is about receiving feedback. If you've got a know-it-all (be it D1 or sub-varsity) they may not be as open as someone who realizes that feedback on this type of situation is valuable and helps you be a better official.

Dave Dow · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 01, 2009, 08:04pm

Most of the time these situations can be talked about during a pre game. Make sure to talk about court coverages, and make sure to tell him that he "MUST TRUST HIS PARTNERS"

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Johnny Ringo · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Nov 03, 2009, 08:28pm

I simply ask: What did you see there? And then go from there ...

Adam · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Nov 03, 2009, 11:47pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I simply ask: What did you see there? And then go from there ...

I will say this, from the perspective of having dialed long distance only to get the wrong number, this is the easiest way to start it. And the best.

My response is to always to answer humbly, recognizing that merely by asking the question, the other official is telling me I may have kicked it.