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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by constable

How is it different from dunking in a game? If there is such a significant risk to players when dunking, then why allow it during the game?

Is Federation the only rule set which prohibits dunking during the warm up? You can do it in FIBA. What are the NCAA rules?

A player dunking in a game likely can do so and if they cannot, they might get pulled by the coach because it cost them points. You do not see players trying to dunk that cannot in games. In warm-ups kids might try several times and cause the rim to break more than once.

BTW, the rules at the NCAA level are the same. I do not give a rat's behind about FIBA rules because they might use a different financial structure to fix a rim and backboard.

Peace

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by constable

How is it different from dunking in a game? If there is such a significant risk to players when dunking, then why allow it during the game?

Is Federation the only rule set which prohibits dunking during the warm up? You can do it in FIBA. What are the NCAA rules?

Can't do it in NCAA either...seems as though you are more worried about wanting to see a dunk contest rather than officiating a basketball game. For that I suggest the NBA all-star weekend or an And-1 taping.

[constable]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Can't do it in NCAA either...seems as though you are more worried about wanting to see a dunk contest rather than officiating a basketball game. For that I suggest the NBA all-star weekend or an And-1 taping.

Am I not entitled to my opinion? I don't like certain rules. It doesn't mean I don't enforce them.

I just believe personally that some rules aren't applicable or appropriate for games being played in today's era.

It's much the same as certain laws which I'm sworn to enforce at work. They might have been applicable in 1980 but are still on the books today.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I don't enforce it.

[Lotto]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Can't do it in NCAA either...

Actually, it's only illegal in NCAAM to dunk before the game. NCAAW only prohibits dunking a dead ball during the game.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by constable

Am I not entitled to my opinion? I don't like certain rules. It doesn't mean I don't enforce them.

I just believe personally that some rules aren't applicable or appropriate for games being played in today's era.

It's much the same as certain laws which I'm sworn to enforce at work. They might have been applicable in 1980 but are still on the books today.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I don't enforce it.

Sigh, of course you are and so am I, so let's not play that silly game. But I'll reiterate my opinion that your more concerned about seeing a show than a basketball game. What does pregame dunking bring to the table? Nothing, other than shenanigans and gamesmanship. It has nothing to do with the game, so why allow it? How can it not be appropriate if it prevents those things?

And don't forget that the FED bases their rules on whats applicable to all high schools across the US. This isn't the NBA where they can tightly regulate the basket apparatuses in 29 arenas.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by constable

Am I not entitled to my opinion? I don't like certain rules. It doesn't mean I don't enforce them.

I just believe personally that some rules aren't applicable or appropriate for games being played in today's era.

It's much the same as certain laws which I'm sworn to enforce at work. They might have been applicable in 1980 but are still on the books today.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I don't enforce it.

I have not been officiating since 1980, but when I was working a summer game several years ago there were kids intent on slamming the ball. One guy hung on the rim and broke the basket. That court could not be used anymore, and that was with maintenance people around and working on fixing the problem. Well that did not work because they did not have the tools or the ability to fix it in a timely manner. Now if this was a real game, the game would have been canceled or postponed. And this was a rather typical high school and I can only image the many schools do not have any maintenance people on site or the resources to fix a broken basket on the spot.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by constable

Anyone else think that the prohibition on dunking in the warm up is one of the dumbest rules there is?

Only in third grade games. That's where it should be encouraged.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by constable

How is it different from dunking in a game? If there is such a significant risk to players when dunking, then why allow it during the game?

As Billy Mac said, you're going to have kids trying to dunk that can't and with that comes an increaded injury risk. Game versus warmups, here's one example: In warmups you would have kids, who can't dunk, running from half court, jumping, and trying to dunk. Are you going to have that during a game? No.

And I don't know where you got that you have to really hang on the rim to break it. That just isn't true.

Is Federation the only rule set which prohibits dunking during the warm up? You can do it in FIBA. What are the NCAA rules?

It doesn't matter. NCAA players are not HS kids. There's a higher skill level at work. There are plenty of rule differences between NCAA and NFHS and most of them exist because of the difference in skill level.

Am I not entitled to my opinion?

Did you not ask us what we thought?

"Anyone else think that the prohibition on dunking in the warm up is one of the dumbest rules there is?"