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what is a grasp?
This came up at a pickup game today. 10-3-3 prohibits grasping the basket or dunking in warm-ups. What about just touching the rim or slapping the backboard?
What are the limits? Just for the record, I'm the one with the gym key and I was trying to keep my buddies from bending the rim. They were definitely grasping. 10-3-3 ART. 3 . . . Grasp either basket during the time of the officials’ jurisdiction, dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball prior to or during the game or during any intermission until jurisdiction of the officials has ended. This item applies to all team members. |
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As the father of two girls who were once both teenagers, I don't think there's a difference between grasping and touching.
OK, seriously (sort of), there definitely is a difference. If their fingers are curled around any part of the rim (and I'm one of those guys who thinks this rule applies to the net as well) and they exert pressure in any direction, it's a grasp.
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If you see anyone getting CLOSE to the rim during warm ups....ease over to them and tell the to stay away from it. Or better, ask the coach if he is comfortable starting the game with a T for grasping the rim as little Johnny has been getting really close to it. Either one usually stops it immediately.
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Went to work an "alumni game" yesterday. One of the players dunked and hung at one end of the gym. Broke the basket support (the whole support / backboard started swinging wildly. The alums had to play half-court. |
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so then ban hanging on the rim in the warm up like we do in the game.
With breakaway rims, you really need to throw it down hard and hang on the rim for a while before you do any damage to it. Just going up and dunking the ball will not break the rim. |
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I for one don't. Yes the rule may have come from a bygone era of rigid rims, but the antics and gamesmanship that it prevents is more than satisfactory for keeping the rule.
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Tell the guys if they want to play, don't TOUCH the rim. STAY OFF. Your responsibility has nothing to do with the rules.
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You couldn't be more wrong.
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The no dunk in warm-up is absolutely a good rule. Especially for sub-varsity or rec games in auxiliary gyms where they don't always have new rims and the players can't jump as high as they think they can. |
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Injuries ???
Let's not forget the injury factor, players who would never, or could never, try to dunk in a game, trying to dunk during warmups. An injury waiting to happen.
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How is it different from dunking in a game? If there is such a significant risk to players when dunking, then why allow it during the game?
Is Federation the only rule set which prohibits dunking during the warm up? You can do it in FIBA. What are the NCAA rules? |
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