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IowaMike Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:33pm

There isn't a middle school in my area where it is anything but two whistle. Same goes for Freshman or Soph games, always two whistle unless the same officials are working both the soph and varsity game, which is common at smaller schools, then both games are three officials. To my knowledge, just about every varsity game in Iowa is three whistle now. It's tough when you get your first varsity games because you have little to no experience working three person. Of course once you get used to it, it is tough to go back and work two person.

dsqrddgd909 Mon Sep 21, 2009 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 626486)
:confused:

If they DID make the switch, how do they have Fall games?

Corrected post above. Thanks for catching it.

referee99 Mon Sep 21, 2009 08:04pm

dsgdsfggrdd,

Just remember this: when a player is holding the ball, they are not allowed to touch any part of their body to the floor except hands and feet. That makes the fall to the floor traveling call easier to understand.

dsqrddgd909 Tue Sep 22, 2009 05:40am

Thanks.

Amesman Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:09pm

How about the ball?
 
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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 626563)
dsgdsfggrdd,

Just remember this: when a player is holding the ball, they are not allowed to touch any part of their body to the floor except hands and feet. That makes the fall to the floor traveling call easier to understand.

Clarification, please: If player is holding ball and, say, faking pass, loses balance and presses the ball to the floor to regain balance, stands upright again without ever letting go of ball or moving pivot foot -- that is no violation?

Without books at work now and can't remember.

Ch1town Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 626631)
Clarification, please: If player is holding ball and, say, faking pass, loses balance and presses the ball to the floor to regain balance, stands upright again without ever letting go of ball or moving pivot foot -- that is no violation?

Without books at work now and can't remember.

referee99 answered this one for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 626563)
Just remember this: when a player is holding the ball, they are not allowed to touch any part of their body to the floor except hands and feet. That makes the fall to the floor traveling call easier to understand.


Raymond Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 626360)

blew one call...anticipating and calling a kicked ball that never happened <doh> :o

Did you stick with the kicked ball call or did you go with an inadvertent/accidental whistle? Or did it not matter, ie: offense still caught the pass?

dsqrddgd909 Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 626636)
Did you stick with the kicked ball call or did you go with an inadvertent/accidental whistle? Or did it not matter, ie: offense still caught the pass?

Called it and lived with it. I compounded error by not making eye contact with my partner who would have waved me off, I think.

Ch1town Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 626641)
Called it and lived with it. I compounded error by not making eye contact with my partner who would have waved me off, I think.

Call a phantom foul - live with it
Call a violation that never occured - fix it

Not sure what you meant by your partner would've waved you off...
Whether eye contact is made or not, you can always provide info to partners & most importantly, let them change their call if they choose to do so.

Don't make eye contact with me & I'll be coming to ya with info :) In my pre-game I make it known that I will not come to you unless I am 110% sure. So we don't have to waste time with the "are you sures."

mick Tue Sep 22, 2009 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 626643)
Call a phantom foul - live with it
Call a violation that never occured - fix it

Not sure what you meant by your partner would've waved you off...
Whether eye contact is made or not, you can always provide info to partners & most importantly, let them change their call if they choose to do so.

Don't make eye contact with me & I'll be coming to ya with info :) In my pre-game I make it known that I will not come to you unless I am 110% sure. So we don't have to waste time with the "are you sures."

110%.
Good joke.

dsqrddgd909 Tue Sep 22, 2009 02:45pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 626643)
Call a phantom foul - live with it
Call a violation that never occured - fix it

Not sure what you meant by your partner would've waved you off...
Whether eye contact is made or not, you can always provide info to partners & most importantly, let them change their call if they choose to do so.

Don't make eye contact with me & I'll be coming to ya with info :) In my pre-game I make it known that I will not come to you unless I am 110% sure. So we don't have to waste time with the "are you sures."

Good advice and thank you.

In this situation I called it and gave the signal immediately, after which I knew I had kicked it <pun intended>. After a signal, can I simply say inadvertent whistle? The team on defense (orange) gathered the pass off the defensive player's leg. Now Orange ball?

Raymond Tue Sep 22, 2009 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 626653)
Good advice and thank you.

In this situation I called it and gave the signal immediately, after which I knew I had kicked it <pun intended>. After a signal, can I simply say inadvertent whistle? The team on defense (orange) gathered the pass off the defensive player's leg. Now Orange ball?

I'll wait for the answers to roll in.

When did you blow your whistle, before or after RED gathered the ball?

Ch1town Tue Sep 22, 2009 03:11pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 626653)
Good advice and thank you.

In this situation I called it and gave the signal immediately, after which I knew I had kicked it <pun intended>. After a signal, can I simply say inadvertent whistle? The team on defense (orange) gathered the pass off the defensive player's leg. Now Orange ball?

I'd like to think so... If you go with an IW, the ball goes back to the team that had control prior to the whistle.

FYI, use one syllable words for colors. Orange is red, purple is blue, yellow is gold, etc.

M&M Guy Tue Sep 22, 2009 03:24pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 626653)
In this situation I called it and gave the signal immediately, after which I knew I had kicked it <pun intended>. After a signal, can I simply say inadvertent whistle?

Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know! Pick me! Pick me!

:D

Ch1town Tue Sep 22, 2009 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 626667)
Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know! Pick me! Pick me!

:D

Rubbing it in are we :D


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