Newbie has his first HS games
 

Girl's high school rec league -

blew one call...anticipating and calling a kicked ball that never happened <doh> :o

lots of contact - I called my first intentional.

Question on traveling - my rule book is at work. Player jumps to receive pass, twists to make mid air pass, changes mind and falls to floor on hips/side after very minor contact. Partner had traveling. Right or wrong?

4.44.5 SITUATION A: Is it traveling if A1 falls to the floor: (a) while holding the
ball; or (b) after being airborne to catch a pass or control a rebound? RULING:
Yes in both (a) and (b).

Thanks.

and congrats on your first Varsity game!

Michigan High School Athletic Association season for MHSAA members starts:

Girls 1st contest : 11/30/09
Boys 1st contest: 12/07/09

Perhaps non-member schools are playing in the Fall.
CoachP may know.

Mick - he said it's a "Rec League", and I guess he's happy to be working that level (as am I when I get the chance).

We have a "V" Rec League going on right now too where our training committee uses it to train our junior and less experienced officials for the upcoming season. About 1/3 to 1/2 the players are actual V players as many of the V players also play football. Good experience and training that's for sure!

Mick, Grunewar corrected my error. It's a rec league for JV and Varsity area girl teams. I guess I was so excited that I did not clarify. I did not mean to to overstate the level of the games.

I think you are fortunate to have that type of league available.
It sounds like a real fine means to hone the edge.

You're very lucky to be on the hardwood during this time of year.
U.P. here, we have the Girls' middle school season underway.

In your Rec league, do you have a chance to work on any three-whistle mechanics?

No. I wish I could though.

It seems like many of the subvarsity games I have attended here in SE Michigan (Class C and D) are 2 whistle.

That's exactly what I like about what our Association is doing. I've work mostly two-whistle during the regular seasons to date. But during this Summer and now Fall V Rec Leagues we are working three-whistle with evaluators.

Been a great learning experience for me. Our feedback is constructive, immediate and we openly discuss what we saw, what they saw......or what we didn't see but should have. ;)

Nice.

The first year (and last year), there were still some middle schools that did not make the switch.

I have fall games for private K-8 schools that did not make the switch.

:confused:

If they DID make the switch, how do they have Fall games?

There isn't a middle school in my area where it is anything but two whistle. Same goes for Freshman or Soph games, always two whistle unless the same officials are working both the soph and varsity game, which is common at smaller schools, then both games are three officials. To my knowledge, just about every varsity game in Iowa is three whistle now. It's tough when you get your first varsity games because you have little to no experience working three person. Of course once you get used to it, it is tough to go back and work two person.

Corrected post above. Thanks for catching it.

dsgdsfggrdd,

Just remember this: when a player is holding the ball, they are not allowed to touch any part of their body to the floor except hands and feet. That makes the fall to the floor traveling call easier to understand.

Thanks.

How about the ball?
 

Clarification, please: If player is holding ball and, say, faking pass, loses balance and presses the ball to the floor to regain balance, stands upright again without ever letting go of ball or moving pivot foot -- that is no violation?

Without books at work now and can't remember.

referee99 answered this one for you.

Did you stick with the kicked ball call or did you go with an inadvertent/accidental whistle? Or did it not matter, ie: offense still caught the pass?

Called it and lived with it. I compounded error by not making eye contact with my partner who would have waved me off, I think.

Call a phantom foul - live with it
Call a violation that never occured - fix it

Not sure what you meant by your partner would've waved you off...
Whether eye contact is made or not, you can always provide info to partners & most importantly, let them change their call if they choose to do so.

Don't make eye contact with me & I'll be coming to ya with info :) In my pre-game I make it known that I will not come to you unless I am 110% sure. So we don't have to waste time with the "are you sures."

110%.
Good joke.

Good advice and thank you.

In this situation I called it and gave the signal immediately, after which I knew I had kicked it <pun intended>. After a signal, can I simply say inadvertent whistle? The team on defense (orange) gathered the pass off the defensive player's leg. Now Orange ball?

I'll wait for the answers to roll in.

When did you blow your whistle, before or after RED gathered the ball?

I'd like to think so... If you go with an IW, the ball goes back to the team that had control prior to the whistle.

FYI, use one syllable words for colors. Orange is red, purple is blue, yellow is gold, etc.

Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know! Pick me! Pick me!

:D

Rubbing it in are we :D

I don't know if that's universally used any more. I used to do that all the time, with the reason being it is easier to say and understand one-syllable words when reporting a foul, or giving an OOB call. But I know it has been directed in NCAA-W, for example, to use the actual colors, because a number of team identities are associated with the colors: Purple Raiders, Orange Crush, etc. It has always sounded strange for me, in a gym full of people wearing purple shirts, holding signs cheering for the Purple Raiders, to say, "Blue ball" when it goes OOB.

Check to see how it's done in your area.

Cool thanks!

Thanks, that's what my partner was doing. I'll ask in our association.

IIRC, before...