Newbie has his first HS games

dsqrddgd909

Girl's high school rec league -

blew one call...anticipating and calling a kicked ball that never happened <doh> 😮

lots of contact - I called my first intentional.

Question on traveling - my rule book is at work. Player jumps to receive pass, twists to make mid air pass, changes mind and falls to floor on hips/side after very minor contact. Partner had traveling. Right or wrong?

grunewar

4.44.5 SITUATION A: Is it traveling if A1 falls to the floor: (a) while holding the
ball; or (b) after being airborne to catch a pass or control a rebound? RULING:
Yes in both (a) and (b).

dsqrddgd909

Thanks.

grunewar

and congrats on your first Varsity game!

mick

grunewar wrote
and congrats on your first Varsity game!

Michigan High School Athletic Association season for MHSAA members starts:
Girls 1st contest : 11/30/09
Boys 1st contest: 12/07/09

Perhaps non-member schools are playing in the Fall.
CoachP may know.

grunewar

Mick - he said it's a "Rec League", and I guess he's happy to be working that level (as am I when I get the chance).

We have a "V" Rec League going on right now too where our training committee uses it to train our junior and less experienced officials for the upcoming season. About 1/3 to 1/2 the players are actual V players as many of the V players also play football. Good experience and training that's for sure!

dsqrddgd909

mick wrote
Michigan High School Athletic Association season for MHSAA members starts:
Girls 1st contest : 11/30/09
Boys 1st contest: 12/07/09

Perhaps non-member schools are playing in the Fall.
CoachP may know.

Mick, Grunewar corrected my error. It's a rec league for JV and Varsity area girl teams. I guess I was so excited that I did not clarify. I did not mean to to overstate the level of the games.

mick

grunewar wrote
Mick - he said it's a "Rec League", and I guess he's happy to be working that level (as am I when I get the chance).

We have a "V" Rec League going on right now too where our training committee uses it to train our junior and less experienced officials for the upcoming season. About 1/3 to 1/2 the players are actual V players as many of the V players also play football. Good experience and training that's for sure!

I think you are fortunate to have that type of league available.
It sounds like a real fine means to hone the edge.

mick

dsqrddgd909 wrote
Mick, Grunewar corrected my error. It's a rec league for JV and Varsity area girl teams. I guess I was so excited that I did not clarify. I did not mean to to overstate the level of the games.

You're very lucky to be on the hardwood during this time of year.
U.P. here, we have the Girls' middle school season underway.

In your Rec league, do you have a chance to work on any three-whistle mechanics?

dsqrddgd909

No. I wish I could though.

It seems like many of the subvarsity games I have attended here in SE Michigan (Class C and D) are 2 whistle.

grunewar

mick wrote
In your Rec league, do you have a chance to work on any three-whistle mechanics?

That's exactly what I like about what our Association is doing. I've work mostly two-whistle during the regular seasons to date. But during this Summer and now Fall V Rec Leagues we are working three-whistle with evaluators.

Been a great learning experience for me. Our feedback is constructive, immediate and we openly discuss what we saw, what they saw......or what we didn't see but should have. 😉

mick

grunewar wrote
That's exactly what I like about what our Association is doing. I've work mostly two-whistle during the regular seasons to date. But during this Summer and now Fall V Rec Leagues we are working three-whistle with evaluators.

Been a great learning experience for me. Our feedback is constructive, immediate and we openly discuss what we saw, what they saw......or what we didn't see but should have. 😉

Nice.

CoachP

mick wrote
Michigan High School Athletic Association season for MHSAA members starts:
Girls 1st contest : 11/30/09
Boys 1st contest: 12/07/09

Perhaps non-member schools are playing in the Fall.
CoachP may know.

The first year (and last year), there were still some middle schools that did not make the switch.

dsqrddgd909

I have fall games for private K-8 schools that did not make the switch.

CoachP

dsqrddgd909 wrote
I have fall games for private K-8 schools that did make the switch.

😕

If they DID make the switch, how do they have Fall games?

IowaMike

There isn't a middle school in my area where it is anything but two whistle. Same goes for Freshman or Soph games, always two whistle unless the same officials are working both the soph and varsity game, which is common at smaller schools, then both games are three officials. To my knowledge, just about every varsity game in Iowa is three whistle now. It's tough when you get your first varsity games because you have little to no experience working three person. Of course once you get used to it, it is tough to go back and work two person.

dsqrddgd909

CoachP wrote
:confused:

If they DID make the switch, how do they have Fall games?

Corrected post above. Thanks for catching it.

referee99

dsgdsfggrdd,

Just remember this: when a player is holding the ball, they are not allowed to touch any part of their body to the floor except hands and feet. That makes the fall to the floor traveling call easier to understand.

dsqrddgd909

Thanks.

Amesman

referee99 wrote
dsgdsfggrdd,

Just remember this: when a player is holding the ball, they are not allowed to touch any part of their body to the floor except hands and feet. That makes the fall to the floor traveling call easier to understand.

Clarification, please: If player is holding ball and, say, faking pass, loses balance and presses the ball to the floor to regain balance, stands upright again without ever letting go of ball or moving pivot foot -- that is no violation?

Without books at work now and can't remember.