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Old Thu Sep 03, 2009, 12:27pm
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How is everyone planning to handle this new rule? I think this will require the lead to be primary whistle on all block/charges on secondary defenders (this may already be the case for many of us). Thoughts?
Rantings about whether this "new" rule is good or bad aside, the L should have the call on a secondary defender sliding in on a drive to the bucket. How else have you been doing it Tio???
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Old Thu Sep 03, 2009, 01:07pm
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Rantings about whether this "new" rule is good or bad aside, the L should have the call on a secondary defender sliding in on a drive to the bucket. How else have you been doing it Tio???
The lead has the best chance to get it right. Some officials still think they get first crack if the drive comes from their area even on a secondary defender. I don't like this because 1. There is no way the outside official is able to see the whole play on the legal guarding position of the secondary defender. 2. Now with the new rule, the lead is really the only one who can make a determination on whether the defender was under the cylinder. Crews that trust each other will be fine with the new rule, crews that don't will be in trouble.
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Old Thu Sep 03, 2009, 02:10pm
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The lead has the best chance to get it right. Some officials still think they get first crack if the drive comes from their area even on a secondary defender. I don't like this because 1. There is no way the outside official is able to see the whole play on the legal guarding position of the secondary defender. 2. Now with the new rule, the lead is really the only one who can make a determination on whether the defender was under the cylinder. Crews that trust each other will be fine with the new rule, crews that don't will be in trouble.
I see some blarges coming!!!!!
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Old Thu Sep 03, 2009, 09:47pm
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The secondary defender is the L's responsiblity in both 2- and 3-man crews.

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Old Thu Sep 03, 2009, 11:06pm
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I see some blarges coming!!!!!

Why? If the lead calls a block and the slot or Trail call charge, wouldn't everything be trumped if the Lead says "He's in the Restricted Area."
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Old Thu Sep 03, 2009, 11:56pm
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Why? If the lead calls a block and the slot or Trail call charge, wouldn't everything be trumped if the Lead says "He's in the Restricted Area."
No. You still have to determine if it is a secondary defender or not....at precisely what time does a defender become one or the other. There is a point at which a secondary defender becomes the primary defender.

And exactly where is this area? Without it being marked, there is going to be a lot of inconsistency. That is why the NBA eventually marked it. And if they can't get their crews to get it right without marking it, how to you think college guys (at all levels) will get it right.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2009, 11:07am
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The NCAA diagram for this season.

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Old Fri Sep 04, 2009, 11:18am
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That is what I thought the description was saying...and the picture makes it clear. However, without a precise marking on the floor, it will be a gray area and some officials will still not call a charge even if the player is a foot or even three outside that "box" with the claim that the player was "under the basket"...as they already do.
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