More on "consistency"

[truerookie]

[QUOTE=zeedonk;620128]
Combined with a recent camp that had most observers (college, for most part) disfavoring most "and-1s" if the player got the shot off,


I get it!! However, I don't get the pass on the and-1s if the player got the shot off.

Doesn't that go against the rule of a airborne shooter. As long as, the player get the shot off pass on the call.

So my position is, if a shooter goes up and the defender bumps or box out the shooter before he/she returns to the floor. As long as they got the shot off pass on the call.

SOMEONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME!

Distance to/from the goal should not be of any consequences.

Originally Posted by truerookie

I get it!! However, I don't get the pass on the and-1s if the player got the shot off.

Doesn't that go against the rule of a airborne shooter. As long as, the player get the shot off pass on the call.

Absolutely! I wouldn't put too much into trying to "get" that bit of info. Sounds like you have a good grasp on how it should be called.

Perhaps, not calling cheap And1s was the point, but that should have nothing to do with whether the shot was released or not.

[zeedonk]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Perhaps, not calling cheap And1s was the point

Yes, that is what I took out of that camp also. The cheapie "and-1" is disfavored if the player is able to continue his/her motion and complete the shot. I also take from this the notion of the patient whistle, because if you give it that extra beat before hitting the whistle, you will/may find that the player will/may "play through" the contact.

Differ this from the WHACK on the shooter who has beaten his defender and the defender reaches out and WHACK! the whole gym hears it. Also differ this from the jump shooter as noted above.

I'm back on the floor this weekend, we'll see how it goes... thanks for the advice. I particularly like the "recall" examples from jeffpea. Will work on incorporating that as well.

Z

[Raymond]

[QUOTE=truerookie;620445]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

Combined with a recent camp that had most observers (college, for most part) disfavoring most "and-1s" if the player got the shot off,


I get it!! However, I don't get the pass on the and-1s if the player got the shot off.

Doesn't that go against the rule of a airborne shooter. As long as, the player get the shot off pass on the call.

So my position is, if a shooter goes up and the defender bumps or box out the shooter before he/she returns to the floor. As long as they got the shot off pass on the call.

SOMEONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME!

Distance to/from the goal should not be of any consequences.

Actually, there are times when distance does make a difference. Contact on the wrist to someone shooting a point blank lay-up is not the same as contact to the wrist of someone shooting a 18' jumper.

As far as letting airborne shooters return safely to the ground, protecting shooters was a Focus Point last year for NCAA-M. And I never heard anyone ever say that's airborne players in the paint can be knocked down without penalty.

[just another ref]

"One does not strive for consistency. One strives for quality. Consistency is one of the symptoms of quality."**




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