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Old Thu Aug 06, 2009, 05:09pm
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I'm pretty sure Jeff has a typo below that substantially changes the meaning of what I'm thinking he meant to say...
Yes it was a typo. I just changed it.

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Old Fri Aug 07, 2009, 08:39am
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some coaches just don't get it. A bump at the FT line on a drive where a foul call would result in the team getting the ball OOB is not as valuable as the player being allowed to continue for an undefended shot if they are able to get by that last defender in position to do anything (the one who just fouled them).

EDIT: Or for that matter, a layup is even more valuable than a 1-and-1 or 2 FT shots when the possible foul occurs before the act of shooting begins.
Sounds like you call a great game Cameron! Too many times we as officials pop it while the play is still developing. If we learn to be patient, we don't have so many GIs in our game.

Mere contact does not constitute a foul.
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Old Fri Aug 07, 2009, 10:46am
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Cameron - I understand what you are saying about holding the call and seeing the whole play (regarding the 3pt shooter)...but some thoughts:

Isn't this allowing the defender 6 fouls before they foul out. Also, this allows the defender to play more aggressive and thus changing the game? What happens the next time the same situation occurs? What happens if the 3pt shooter decided not to shoot?

A no call - when there is a foul - may have an immediate advantage for the offense but in the long run it can be a disadvantage as basketball has penalties for accumulating fouls.

Where does one draw the line? At what point is the offensive advantage "good enough" that you don't blow the whistle?
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Old Fri Aug 07, 2009, 12:05am
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I like quick whistles followed by clear and desicive mechanics.
I'll agree on the clear and decisive mechanics, but a quick whistle is a bad practice. The longer that an official has to look at a play, the better his/her judgment is. Quick whistles are wrong way more often than patient whistles.

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I like a brief (if possible) answer to a legitimate relevant game question.
Reasonable questions deserve a reasonable response, so long as the coach is not questioning call after call after call.
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It really bothers me when a Ref lags behind (lead or trail). If he's outa shape and can't keep up with the pace of the game, it's difficult for me to have respect and avoid saying something. I would never say something loud enough for fans to hear, or to otherwise embarass, but I have said something face to face like, "Sir, I'd really appreciate if you'd get to the same half of the court the ball is on."
I agree that officials should be in shape, but that sarcastic comment would not do you or the game any good.

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Last observation: ANY advice in here about dealing with coaches that begins with phrases such as, "Most coaches..." should be lightly regarded at best.
Sure all coaches are different, but there are some characteristics that about 99% of them share.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 01:23pm
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What are some of the best ways to establish confidence, cooperation and respect from coaches and players.
Pick a player you want to respect you, or a coach for that matter (you have to choose) and make every call go his/her way.
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Old Sat Aug 01, 2009, 11:38pm
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What are some of the best ways to establish confidence, cooperation and respect from coaches and players.
A majority of coaches are uncomfortable with anything they are unfamiliar with. So the best way to establish confidence from them is to ref several of their games. Sometimes, there is no substitute for experience.
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Old Mon Aug 03, 2009, 01:49pm
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A majority of coaches are uncomfortable with anything they are unfamiliar with. So the best way to establish confidence from them is to ref several of their games. Sometimes, there is no substitute for experience.
I cannot believe I missed this post, but this was excellent advice.

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