Why FIBA, Why?

[constable]

So I took a few years off both baseball and basketball officiating for a few reasons.

I'm back doing baseball now, and basketball starts with a camp on the 10th of August. I can't wait.

I'm reading up on some rules now specifically FIBA rules since that is what everyone but High School in Ontario uses.

I would have much rather Basketball Canada gone to NCAA rules when they made the switch a few years ago.

At first glace, I can't say I'm a fan of these rules.

Does anyone know the rationale behind a few of their sillier rules-

Only allowing players to wear # 4-15.

Timeouts must be made through the scorers table, and only during a deadball?

Why can't timeouts be shortened if both teams are ready?

Is there anyone here who does both Fed and FIBA who can give me some tips on the rules and mechanics?

Originally Posted by constable

Only allowing players to wear # 4-15.

I don't do FIBA, but having watched a lot of the FIBA stuff on TV, I can almost say the good reason for this is when reporting, you usually have to indicate 1, 2, or 3 FT's, so doing a jersey number 1-3 and then the number of FT's can get confusing to the scorekeeper. Remember, not all of those folks who work the book are 100% knowledgeable about how we report those fouls.

[JRutledge]

Because they did not invent basketball.

One of these rules is the reason the 1972 USA Basketball team got screwed (in their mind, not my thinking). I do not understand why the table plays such a role in calling a timeout.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Because they did not invent basketball.

One of these rules is the reason the 1972 USA Basketball team got screwed (in their mind, not my thinking). I do not understand why the table plays such a role in calling a timeout.

Peace

And here I thought it was because of the do-overs. Are those allowed in FIBA rules?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And here I thought it was because of the do-overs. Are those allowed in FIBA rules?

Actually there was a documentary that HBO Sports produced that dealt with the Olympic situation in great detail. FIBA allowed timeouts to only go through the scorer's table, which were not properly handled. This was the reason for the constant tries at the play and the reason the final try was successful. I am not saying that is right, just that if you have such a flawed rule and a major confusion based on that rule, usually you do not keep that rule. Or at the very least you modify or change the rule so you do not have a similar incident as before. It appears that FIBA has similar rules as they did over 30 years ago. I would have thought there was a change, I guess not.

Peace

[Adam]

I'd love to read the rationale behind that, Jeff, thanks for the pointer.

[constable]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I don't do FIBA, but having watched a lot of the FIBA stuff on TV, I can almost say the good reason for this is when reporting, you usually have to indicate 1, 2, or 3 FT's, so doing a jersey number 1-3 and then the number of FT's can get confusing to the scorekeeper. Remember, not all of those folks who work the book are 100% knowledgeable about how we report those fouls.

Do you not do this in FED and CCA as well?

Red

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I guess using FIBA's flawed logic that makes sense, but to those who understand basketball it shouldn't.

[Adam]

I don't think he's right, though, otherwise 11, 12, and 13 would all be prohibited as well.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I don't think he's right, though, otherwise 11, 12, and 13 would all be prohibited as well.

I wondered about that till I saw the mechanic explained in a post following yours. There could be very little confusion between 11, 12, and 13, and the number of free throws in that case.

[constable]

Also, why can a player get up to 5 technical fouls? I'd think that if people get 2 technical fouls with the same sort of circumstance he'd be getting a MLB umpire style heave-ho

Originally Posted by constable

Also, why can a player get up to 5 technical fouls? I'd think that if people get 2 technical fouls with the same sort of circumstance he'd be getting a MLB umpire style heave-ho

5 technical fouls? Padgett would have a heart attack!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

5 technical fouls? Padgett would have a heart attack!

Why do you think I refer to them as FEEBLE.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

5 technical fouls? Padgett would have a heart attack!

I would have thought he might have an emotional experience rather than a heart attack.

[constable]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

5 technical fouls? Padgett would have a heart attack!

So should any official.

5 is to much. I would imagine my Fed mindset of 2 and out will apply.

Originally Posted by constable

Do you not do this in FED and CCA as well?

Red

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I guess using FIBA's flawed logic that makes sense, but to those who understand basketball it shouldn't.

True...but if I'm speaking English, and scorekeeper is speaking Swahili, I can see some kind of confusion.