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Old Mon Jul 27, 2009, 02:22pm
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After the Coach Technical

Speaking to a friend of mine who attended the CCA camp in Las Vegas. He told me that one of the NBA guys who was doing the film break down on his game told him that "Following a TF issued to a coach that the next foul or violation should be on that coach's team". He stated that to often the next several calls following a TF favor the team whose coach was sanctioned and that leaves the opposing coach questioning if he should get a TF to restore balance.

Have any of you ever been instructed likewise.
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Speaking to a friend of mine who attended the CCA camp in Las Vegas. He told me that one of the NBA guys who was doing the film break down on his game told him that "Following a TF issued to a coach that the next foul or violation should be on that coach's team". He stated that to often the next several calls following a TF favor the team whose coach was sanctioned and that leaves the opposing coach questioning if he should get a TF to restore balance.

Have any of you ever been instructed likewise.
OMG no.

Seems like classic "leave it" advice.
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Old Mon Jul 27, 2009, 02:34pm
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I would say that "Following a TF issued to a coach that the next foul or violation should be on whichever team commites the next foul or violation".

Of course, I am just a high school basketball official, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Old Mon Jul 27, 2009, 02:51pm
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This is one of those all-too frequent occasions at camp where you smile, nod your head, say "okay" and throw the advice in the trash when you walk out of the gym.
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Old Mon Jul 27, 2009, 02:56pm
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I can see the point but the advice seems misguided.

Might be giving coaches a little too much credit too. You think they are that perceptive and deeply analytical in the heat of a game? Doubtful.
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Old Mon Jul 27, 2009, 03:10pm
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I can see telling some one to make sure and not let that T affect your calls afterwards, but not a blanket statement like that. Good grief.
If you're worried about the other coach, why aren't you worried about the first coach thinking you're out to get him?
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You think they are that perceptive and deeply analytical in the heat of a game? Doubtful.
If by "perceptive and deeply analytical" you mean "paranoid", then , yes, I think that coaches are that way.
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What Do You Mean JUST A High School Official ???

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Following a technical foul issued to a coach, the next foul or violation should be on whichever team commits the next foul or violation
Words of wisdom. Not bad for just you're fifty-third post.
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I've heard a similar philosophy from a respected college D1 guy. His take was, after giving a coach T, make sure the next whistle on the other team is a good one. If your next whistle is a "cheap" one, then the coach thinks, "That's good. I bought that one."

But that's an order of magnitude less controversial than the one presented here.
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I've heard a similar philosophy from a respected college D1 guy. His take was, after giving a coach T, make sure the next whistle on the other team is a good one. If your next whistle is a "cheap" one, then the coach thinks, "That's good. I bought that one."

But that's an order of magnitude less controversial than the one presented here.
Hey - here's an idea. Why not make sure all your whistles are good ones and not "cheap" ones? Naaah - that would never work.
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He told me that one of the NBA guys who was doing the film break down on his game told him that "Following a TF issued to a coach that the next foul or violation should be on that coach's team".
I'm sure there was more said in the beginning or at the end of what was posted here
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At one time I subscribed to this idea.

But the real meaning is that the calling official needs to be ready to make the next tough call even if it goes against the coach that recieved the T. Have the intestinal fortitude to keep calling the game that is in front of you. Sometimes the next foul is in your lap and it goes against the team that just got T'd. Get it right and move on.
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I'm sure there was more said in the beginning or at the end of what was posted here
Ya think??

I think so, too...somehow the whole message was pared down to what the friend told the OP'er. Somehow I don't think that was the point the "NBA guy" was trying to get across.
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Ya think??

I think so, too...somehow the whole message was pared down to what the friend told the OP'er. Somehow I don't think that was the point the "NBA guy" was trying to get across.
Yes there was a lot more before and after, but this was the part I wanted feedback from the forum.

The overall points were aimed at his two partners who the clinician felt were not "taking care of business". All three Ts in the game were for very obvious profanity directed at different times to different members of the crew. C, P, AC. received Ts by the one referee. The clinician did specifically stop the tape on the calls immediately following only the Coach T, and at that time made the statement that was the catalyst for this thread.
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I think the point is to have the courage to continue calling the game following the T. I think many, if not all, of us have been in a situation where a T is issued and plays are called in favor of that team when they really shouldn't be. If you haven't been in a situation like this, learn from those who have.

I thought this thread had something to do with how some officials treat a coach after a T. Specifically, how the calling official's partner(s) treat the coach.
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