A1 jump to shoot, and blocked by B1.

[mendi]

The situation with the intentionally released ball is interesting.

But let me to put it more complex:

1) what if a teammate A2 is touching the A1 ball during A1 jump without release it? (in street basketballball it may happend when A2 forgot that A1 is teammate...)
2) what if when B1 block A1 by touching the ball, B1 is walking while touching the ball (now you may split the case if B1 was actually causing to double control or not), and then he release the ball (A1 still in the air), is the ball still live?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mendi

1) What if a teammate A2 is touching the A1 ball during A1 jump without release it?
2) What if when B1 block A1 by touching the ball, B1 is walking while touching the ball and then he release the ball (A1 still in the air), is the ball still live?
3) In street basketball it may happened when A2 forgot that A1 is teammate.

1) If A1 shoots (ball released), play on. If A1 does not shoot and returns to the floor, travel. If the shot is blocked by A2, and the ball becomes loose, play on, and I believe that A1 may dribble if he is the first to gain possession of the ball.

2) Touching is not the same as controlling the ball, and thus, having possession. I don't believe that B1 can violate the rules regarding traveling, and/or illegal dribbling, in this situation. Also, remember, regarding live ball/ dead ball: The ball becomes dead when: a goal is made; it is apparent the free throw will not be successful on a free throw which is to be followed by another free throw or a free throw which is to be followed by a throw-in; a held ball occurs, or the ball lodges between the backboard and ring or comes to rest on the flange; a player-control or team-control foul occurs; an official’s whistle is blown with exceptions; time expires for a quarter or extra period, with exceptions; a foul, other than player- or team-control, occurs, with exceptions; a free-throw violation by the throwing team occurs; a violation occurs, with exceptions. Regarding exceptions, the ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when a try or tap for a field goal is in flight, or while a try for a free throw is in flight, or during continuous motion by a player who has started a try or tap for goal (is in the act of shooting) before the foul by an opponent occurred, provided time did not expire before the ball was in flight. So unless one of these happened, the ball is still live.

3) You've got to be kidding me.

[mendi]

I was sure that in regular case (no shooting) if A1 and B1 on the floor and have double control(lets say they both hold the ball with two hands), and B1 travelling or going outside of bounds then its held ball, even if 3 seconds didnt passd.

Thus, my question is about the case that A1 is on the air with the ball and B1 come and also hold the ball with both hands and walking (or maybe go outside of bounds while holding) then it is an held ball and thus A1 cannot continue with the shot from the air after B1 release the ball....

[budjones05]

Jump ball

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by budjones05

Jump ball

Held ball ???

[mendi]

Is there any final decision about the last case i mentioned?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mendi

Is there any final decision about the last case I mentioned?

Touching is not the same as controlling the ball, and thus, having possession. I don't believe that B1 can violate the rules regarding traveling, and/or illegal dribbling, in this situation.