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I am sorry; I could not read all of this as this discussion is somewhat repetitive.
![]() I will just say this; you have to understand the game and the mechanics. In one of our State Final Games this past year on the Boy's side, there was a play where the Trail was on a play and for some reason, did not call a foul that everyone could clearly see on a steal attempt near the middle of the floor. A veteran official for some reason either had a brain fart or cracked under the pressure and one of our own (who does not come here anymore to my knowledge) made a great call in the coverage area of his partner. Not only was this an unusual situation, but it was kind of a game saver on many levels. If this foul was not called, the hinges might have come off the doors of this game. This was a rare play in the game and if I recall there was not another moment in the game where this kind of play needed this kind of attention. It was a great get from the official that was calling out of his area, but everyone clearly saw a foul and if this did not get called, the game would have been in jeopardy. That is not the case most of the time. This should be a rare occurrence that you need to call out of your area (if not in the lane BTW) in the first place. And honestly I do not understand why this keeps coming up, other than officials that do not understand the terminology or the mechanics systems to know when these things have difference. I can move this discussion to other sports I work and there are clearly things I would not ever call that my partner is responsible for and I am fine with this, even if they are completely wrong. If you call all over the floor when it is not necessary, a coach or player is going to expect you to call a foul in a situation where it would not be necessary in the first place. Peace
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It just shows that the players are playing you against your partners. They are telling your partners the exact same thing when you miss a call. ![]()
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![]() I'm aware of the ol' divide & conquer routine. Doesn't work on me... my partner(s) is all that I have out there & we will be the best team on the court! My sitch happened in a pro setting, where there is often more pushback from players (grown men) than in HS/NCAA. Our rule of thumb is to refer the complaintant to the calling or non-calling official. We don't answer for each other. You've got to be a good communicator or you won't be around long. "Way to play through the contact" - let's 'em know you saw it & passed. Many times, they respond with "if I missed was a whistle coming?" "Perhaps" with a smile or wink. That's the trust I'm speaking of. |
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![]() More pushback, but less time to moan as the game is very fast paced. |
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As a matter of fact, comments like that (to certain players/coaches) helps the game in some instances! Sometimes it diffuses the pushback when you feel it coming on. Acknowledging non-verbal concerns of players/coaches is not ALWAYS a bad thing. Why not resolve the situation before it blows up? Another part of GM skills. I guess one would have to have a "feel" for the game to do those types of things successfully ![]() |
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That sounds great, but I still would not listen to players as the judgment of my officiating ability. And I certainly would not listen to "has beens" either. They think they know more than you because they played most of their life. You have a job to do, do it and do not worry about what the players think. JMHO
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Ditto.
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