Two Questions - Traveling? and Goaltending?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Me too. That's why I stayed out

You guys are no fun at all!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

You guys are no fun at all!

Alright then,Mr. Smartypants...
1)Isn't it a dribble when the player first placed the ball on the floor and let it go?
2)Each time that the player pushes the ball,isn't that considered a separate dribble then?
3)If he lifts his pivot foot and puts it back down while he's pushing the ball,isn't he travelling?
4)Isn't there a Law of Physics that states the ball must come to rest in his hand before each time that he pushes it on the floor i.e.there must be player control each time?

Did I cover them all,or can you think of any others?

Sorry,Chuck! The debbil made me do it!

[finnref]

When you throw the ball in the air, it is a pass. When you throw the ball in the air, move your pivot foot to run after it and catch it, it is a traveling violation.

When you throw the ball, and the ball bounces on the floor, it is a pass. But if you throw the ball and it bounces on the floor and you go and catch it, it is a dribble.

If the player now dribbles the ball, it is a double dribble violation.

Anyone disagree with the above statements?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by finnref
When you throw the ball in the air, it is a pass.

No, I disagree. When you throw the ball into the air and it's caught by a teammate, it's a pass. 4-31

When you throw the ball in the air, move your pivot foot to run after it and catch it, it is a traveling violation.

Agreed. But there's nothing in the original play to indicate that's what happened, now is there?

When you throw the ball, and the ball bounces on the floor, it is a pass. But if you throw the ball and it bounces on the floor and you go and catch it, it is a dribble.

Agreed. But that's not what happened, is it?

If the player now dribbles the ball, it is a double dribble violation.

Agreed. But once again, that's not what happened, is it?

BTW, you didn't answer my questions.

How is rolling the ball to yourself a pass?

Is rolling the ball on the floor to yourself a pass or a dribble? You're making arguments for both. Which is it?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Alright then,Mr. Smartypants...
1)Isn't it a dribble when the player first placed the ball on the floor and let it go?

No. A dribble may be started by pushing, throwing or batting the ball to the floor. The rule doesn't say anything about rolling it.

2)Each time that the player pushes the ball,isn't that considered a separate dribble then?

No. The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. An opponent bats (intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) the ball.
e. The ball becomes dead.

Touching the ball again doesn't meet any of those requirements.

3)If he lifts his pivot foot and puts it back down while he's pushing the ball,isn't he travelling?

I thought you said he was dribbling. How can he travel if he's dribbling?

4)Isn't there a Law of Physics that states the ball must come to rest in his hand before each time that he pushes it on the floor i.e.there must be player control each time?

Huh? If the ball comes to rest each time a player dribbles, then he's palmed the ball! Oh brother!!

Sign me, the Debbil's Advocate!

[Jurassic Referee]

Hmmph! You take the fun out of everything!

[BktBallRef]

Nah! Wait 'til Rut shows up!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Nah! Wait 'til Rut shows up!

Geeze,you guys from Tobacco Road sure got a mean streak in ya!

[PAULK1]

how about this, treat it the same as if the player was tossing the ball from hand to hand while standing.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by PAULK1
how about this, treat it the same as if the player was tossing the ball from hand to hand while standing.

Is that what they do in GA?

[PAULK1]

I have no clue I am just guessing here>