[drinkeii]

#2 is not GT, you have it right. Note for BI the ball only
needs to be in the cylinder above the basket, on it's way
up or down, and does not have to be a shot. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks - I knew it wasn't BI - trying to explain that one to high school kids, who don't even know what BI is and just know the media definition of goaltending is fun enough!

Anyone have ideas on #1?