Odd situation from my last tournament.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by referee99

By the behaviour of the rogue ref in the OP? Not so much.

By the mention of a 'bit of an accent' being parlayed into suggestions of an immigration check then on to rendition and torture... yeah, that will do it.

I know attempts at humor can be misconstrued, but I'm cringing at the tenor of this thread.

My 2 cents.

Good grief.

[CoachCER]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

All true, but the coach would run the risk of further angering the official, who has already demonstrated less than ideal ability to hear and understand what he's heard. This could easily lead that official to seek revenge....perhaps tossing the coach for something not at all justified....perhaps for telling his team to run a 2-1-2 zone defense....choosing to hear that as "You're a G...D... M..... F...... ".

The only thing that seems to have prevented that is it appears the other two refs took the guy to mid-court gave him a few "suggestions" before resuming.

I thought about that before requesting the conference. However, I was already concerned that was a distinct possibility, and I thought the best way to prevent any further incident was to 1.) Give him a chance to hear his partner state what was said earlier, and 2.) Give the other two a heads up that there was an issue between me and ref #3, and that I was trying to diffuse it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

6. Don't ask for a conference w/ all three officials and the opposing head coach and embarass one person in front of the whole group....what do you expect to happen? do you think the official in question will feel good about that?

And what would your advice for the coach have been?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And what would your advice for the coach have been?

Same as the rogue official's advice; an implied, "shut up, coach."

[Tio]

On behalf of officials everywhere, let me apologize for such unprofessional behavior.

In addition to the points mentioned by other members, I would NEVER, EVER, touch a coach other than the pregame handshake.

[26 Year Gap]

When the official went solo, he threw himself under the bus. Listening to Packer et al doing one of HIS games should be the punishment. I would think that the OP was not the only coach to get the treatment from that particular official on that particular day.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

When the official went solo, he threw himself under the bus.

This was my feeling as well.

Coach, I thought you did the right thing in requesting a conference with everyone - all three officials and the other coach. This way, anything that is said is out in the open in front of everyone, and not just between two people where things could be mis-interpreted. This also eliminated the perception that you were simply trying to play one official over the other if you were to only talk to the original official.

This is also a good idea for officials in general - if there is any general issue that needs to be addressed, do it in front of both coaches, if not also in front of your partner(s). Coaches, (being the paranoid creatures they are...) are less likely to feel like something is "going on" if they are included in the conversation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Coaches, (being the paranoid creatures they are...) are less likely to feel like something is "going on" if they are included in the conversation.

Sounds like a narrative from Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sounds like a narrative from Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.

"While I sit back here safely hidden in the brush, Jim Fowler is going to see how close he can come to the rabid alligator..."

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

"While I sit back here safely hidden in the brush, Jim Fowler is going to see how close he can come to the rabid alligator..."

Yeah. That's what I remember. Would've been the other way around had Jim been doing the commercials. But Marlin looked to be about 88 and if HE could get life insurance......

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by referee99

By the behaviour of the rogue ref in the OP? Not so much.

By the mention of a 'bit of an accent' being parlayed into suggestions of an immigration check then on to rendition and torture... yeah, that will do it.

I know attempts at humor can be misconstrued, but I'm cringing at the tenor of this thread.

My 2 cents.

When did this turn into the baseball board?

Originally Posted by referee99

By the behaviour of the rogue ref in the OP? Not so much.

By the mention of a 'bit of an accent' being parlayed into suggestions of an immigration check then on to rendition and torture... yeah, that will do it.

I know attempts at humor can be misconstrued, but I'm cringing at the tenor of this thread.

My 2 cents.

Guess you're not talking to some of us, who might be baritones.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

"While I sit back here safely hidden in the brush, Jim Fowler is going to see how close he can come to the rabid alligator..."

Jim would know that only warm blooded animals carry rabies.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Don't issue warnings in the form of a conditional ("If you X, then I'm ejecting you.").

I seldom eject a coach for X'ing.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I seldom eject a coach for X'ing.

No, but I've eject many for F'ing, as in "You're f'ing terrible". Of course, they were directing that at my partner.