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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 04:35pm
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He may have heard one of the fans behind the bench. And I agree with Mark Padgett, under certain, very rare, conditions, "Push off" could, and I'm pushing the envelope here, sound like "B*** s***".
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 05:44pm
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He may have heard one of the fans behind the bench. And I agree with Mark Padgett, under certain, very rare, conditions, "Push off" could, and I'm pushing the envelope here, sound like "B*** s***".
The fans were all on the gym opposite of where I was sitting.

I do agree about the "push off" maybe being misunderstood across the gym.

Here is how I handled it.

After the referee in question exited the gym, I approached the site director who heard all of this while standing at the scorers' table, and asked him to let the head of the crew know that I would like to speak with all 3 officials before the second half started. He agreed this was probably a good idea, and said he would take care of it.

The crew, the opposing coach, and I all met in front of the table. I explained to the other two what had happened at halftime, and asked the ref I was speaking with during the game if I said the dreaded "BS" words. He said absoultely not, and told his partner I did not even question the call, and that I only asked that they watch for a push off from a certain number.

I am thinking this closes the matter, but the ref who made the accusation then chimes in, and says "I heard what I heard, and no matter what anyone says, I know what you said." He starts to continue, but I cut him off, and told him that it was never said, his partner who I allegedly said it to didn't hear it, and that he could warn me all he wanted, as I don't speak like that to the referees of my games. I exited the meeting at that point, as did the other coach.

The three officials stayed at center court a few more minutes, and they got into what seemed to be a heated discussion themselves, and then we started the game.

The gentleman I had an issue with gave me "the stare down" whenever he passed by in the 3rd quarter, but there were no further incidents, and we won by a comfortable margin.
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 06:24pm
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I am thinking this closes the matter, but the ref who made the accusation then chimes in, and says "I heard what I heard, and no matter what anyone says, I know what you said."
This guy seems like a prime suspect for waterboarding.
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 10:09pm
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This guy seems like a prime suspect for waterboarding.
This is America, we don't torture....my suggestion would be take him across the border then waterboard him....
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 06:20am
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This is America, we don't torture......
OK then, how about making him listen to a game with Bob Knight, Dick Vitale, and Billy Packer as announcers?
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 11:54am
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OK then, how about making him listen to a game with Bob Knight, Dick Vitale, and Billy Packer as announcers?
That would still be torture...his ears would literally pop to the point of bleeding!
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 12:24pm
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As an official, I am embarassed.

By the behaviour of the rogue ref in the OP? Not so much.

By the mention of a 'bit of an accent' being parlayed into suggestions of an immigration check then on to rendition and torture... yeah, that will do it.

I know attempts at humor can be misconstrued, but I'm cringing at the tenor of this thread.

My 2 cents.
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 09:36pm
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OK then, how about making him listen to a game with Bob Knight, Dick Vitale, and Billy Packer as announcers?
Or even worse...Rollie Massimino....the only thing worse than listening to Rollie broadcast a game, is having to listen to him on the bench....
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 07:30am
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What you did sounds fair.

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The three officials stayed at center court a few more minutes, and they got into what seemed to be a heated discussion themselves, and then we started the game.
Like his partners did, "Get in, get done, get out."
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