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Old Wed Jul 03, 2002, 10:23am
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I was at a camp recently and some interesting statistics were given. The NCAA takes roll at the D1 rules clinics that are held around the country. Currently, there are approximately 1,200 referees who work D1 basketball (about 600 who do men's games and 600 who do women's games). Obviously, these spots do not turn over every year, so one can deduce the difficulty of ever making the D1 ranks.

I didn't write this to discourage anyone who holds the same dream of working D1 that I do. I just think that we need to know what we are up against.

BTW, the information came from a conference coordinator of officials.
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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

To quote Johnny Gill, "There you go!!!"


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Old Wed Jul 03, 2002, 03:07pm
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I was at a camp recently and some interesting statistics were given. The NCAA takes roll at the D1 rules clinics that are held around the country. Currently, there are approximately 1,200 referees who work D1 basketball (about 600 who do men's games and 600 who do women's games). Obviously, these spots do not turn over every year, so one can deduce the difficulty of ever making the D1 ranks.

I didn't write this to discourage anyone who holds the same dream of working D1 that I do. I just think that we need to know what we are up against.

BTW, the information came from a conference coordinator of officials.
I think the numbers are even lower for officials to make it to the college ranks, as it is for a player to make it to the NBA ranks. Not everyone is talented, and you have to be that before you can even think of achieving such a task.

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What camp were you at?
The Big Sky camp.

BTW tony, I do know some who have made it to D1 in 5 years--on the men's side. Definitely the exception rather than the rule.
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What camp were you at?
The Big Sky camp.

BTW tony, I do know some who have made it to D1 in 5 years--on the men's side. Definitely the exception rather than the rule.
And I know of officials that have made it in 5 years on the Women's side. I even know of someone that made it to the NBA in 5 or 6 years. Definitely the exception, but it has happen.

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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

Yeah, but you gotta be in Chicagoland, apparently they
are REALLY desperate for refs (if you believe some people).
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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

Yeah, but you gotta be in Chicagoland, apparently they
are REALLY desperate for refs (if you believe some people).
Well whether it be Chicago area or the rest of the state, the people here must be doing something right. We always seem to have officials in all sports at the highest levels. How many pro and D1 college officials are in your area?

That is what I thought.

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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

Yeah, but you gotta be in Chicagoland, apparently they
are REALLY desperate for refs (if you believe some people).
Well whether it be Chicago area or the rest of the state, the people here must be doing something right. We always seem to have officials in all sports at the highest levels. How many pro and D1 college officials are in your area?

That is what I thought.

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NYC? I have no idea, but I'll guess a lot.
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NYC? I have no idea, but I'll guess a lot.
Don't guess, look it up. Referee Magazine posts every professional official in the Major League sports and the not so major sports.

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Do your own research. @sshole.
You seem grumpy over the last couple posts. Heat wave gettin' to ya, Dan? LOL
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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

its not magic, its hard work and determination and ability.
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I dunno stripes. To hear some people talk, it's not that hard. You start out working high school games your first year and, magically, you're in D1 in 4 or 5 years!

its not magic, its hard work and determination and ability.
And being female. Don't forget the statistics are much better for females (which is my only hope!).
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