NBA playoffs (NBA haters stay away)

[zm1283]

Is an 8-second violation (For not getting the ball across the division line) called a backcourt violation in the NBA? Just curious because the play-by-play guy in the Lakers/Nuggets game said that there "Have been several backcourt violations in the playoffs" for not getting it across in 8 seconds. I know the NBA's terminology is way different than other rule sets, but I'm pretty sure a backcourt violation is the same everywhere.

Good lord. Carmello just fouled Areza on a loose ball (clearly displacement) and the PBP guy is saying "Well Areza didn't have the ball"..what a moron. Van Gundy said "That's playoff basketball, they should let it go".

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Is an 8-second violation (For not getting the ball across the division line) called a backcourt violation in the NBA? Just curious because the play-by-play guy in the Lakers/Nuggets game said that there "Have been several backcourt violations in the playoffs" for not getting it across in 8 seconds. I know the NBA's terminology is way different than other rule sets, but I'm pretty sure a backcourt violation is the same everywhere.

Good lord. Carmello just fouled Areza on a loose ball (clearly displacement) and the PBP guy is saying "Well Areza didn't have the ball"..what a moron. Van Gundy said "That's playoff basketball, they should let it go".

You inquire about the terminology for a violation because how a TV guy states it worries you, then in the next breath you note how low the rules knowledge of these people is and how idiotic some of their comments are.

So what do you think are the chances that the play-by-play guy is right about the 8-second violation?

Hmmmmmmmm......

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You inquire about the terminology for a violation because how a TV guy states it worries you, then in the next breath you note how low the rules knowledge of these people is and how idiotic some of their comments are.

So what do you think are the chances that the play-by-play guy is right about the 8-second violation?

Hmmmmmmmm......

Sorry. I was trying to use sarcasm in the first paragraph, but I couldn't get it to sound right.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Is an 8-second violation (For not getting the ball across the division line) called a backcourt violation in the NBA?

Here is the rule (from NBA rule book)

Guess technically they should call it an "eight-second violation"

Section IX-Eight-Second Rule
A team shall not be in continuous possession of a ball which is in its backcourt for more than 8 consecutive seconds.
EXCEPTION (1): A new 8 seconds is awarded if the defense: (1) kicks or punches the ball, (2) is assessed a technical foul, or (3) is issued a delay of game warning.
EXCEPTION (2): A new 8 seconds is awarded if play is suspended to administer Comments on the Rules-N-Infection Control.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the mid-court line.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Brad

Here is the rule (from NBA rule book)

Guess technically they should call it an "eight-second violation"

Section IX-Eight-Second Rule
A team shall not be in continuous possession of a ball which is in its backcourt for more than 8 consecutive seconds.
EXCEPTION (1): A new 8 seconds is awarded if the defense: (1) kicks or punches the ball, (2) is assessed a technical foul, or (3) is issued a delay of game warning.
EXCEPTION (2): A new 8 seconds is awarded if play is suspended to administer Comments on the Rules-N-Infection Control.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the mid-court line.

What the heck is that? Is it really written that way in the NBA rule book?

[Nevadaref]

I see that the league office is supporting the officials again.



A guy clearly throws an elbow. The officials are on top of it and make a strong call. Now the league comes back and rescinds the decision.

NBA rescinds flagrant against Orlando Magic's Anthony Johnson - ESPN

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The NBA has rescinded the flagrant foul against Orlando Magic guard Anthony Johnson for elbowing Cleveland's Mo Williams in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference finals.

[DonInKansas]

If he'd have elbowed LeBron, Johnson would be suspended.

"Ooooohhhh....Conspiracy theory!"

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What the heck is that? Is it really written that way in the NBA rule book?

It is correct, just written very poorly. Comment N discusses what to do in the event of a player bleeding (infection control). One of the consequences of a bleeding player is that the offensive team will get a new 8 seconds.

[Nevadaref]

This is an apology to the people who were unhappy with my now deleted hip-hop comment.

It was intended in jest, but could easily be taken as offensive.

The humor was supposed to be a reference to the Salt 'N' Pepa rap group.

While I don't see a problem with making a joke about the sentence structure of NBA rule book, I should not have included the final words about the players. That was over the top.

My point of view on the education level of the NBA players is probably negatively skewed by my personal experience in college with Allen Iverson.

Sorry to those who were offended.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ronald

NBA refs do this. They are not perfect but must get in the mid to high 90's or they do not stay around. 90% is not good enough for them

You can get off your soapbox now. Even with the best officials in the NBA working the postseason games, the league office is frequently announcing that their decisions are incorrect. There is no way that they are grading out in the mid to high 90s IN THE VIEW OF THEIR OWN REVIEWERS.

The league office simply refuses to back its officials as yet another T was declared incorrect and rescinded today.

NBA rescinds technical foul on Orlando Magic's Dwight Howard in Eastern Conference Finals - ESPN

The NBA announced Wednesday that it has rescinded Howard's sixth technical foul of the playoffs, which he was given for taunting Anderson Varejao after a layup in the fourth quarter of the Magic's 116-114 overtime victory Tuesday night. Cleveland's forward had draped his arms around Howard in a failed attempt to stop him from scoring.
Howard's total of technicals for the postseason is thus back down to five.


This was one of several technical fouls revoked by the league office this postseason. Denver's Kenyon Martin is the most prominent example, with three of his six playoff technicals rescinded already.

[tomegun]

This is the worst I've seen the officials in the NBA. It could be a case of being told to do one thing and then when they do that the league changes the decision. Regardless, the playoffs aren't shaping up the way Stern wants them to.

On a side note, one of my posts was deleted and I didn't say anything offensive. Is it like that now or did it have something to do with having a quote in my post?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by tomegun

On a side note, one of my posts was deleted and I didn't say anything offensive. Is it like that now or did it have something to do with having a quote in my post?

The moderators on our forum do a great job and they show more patience than I do.

When I have to get involved (as I did today) I am not going to pick through every post -- the initial one that started a turmoil and all responses -- to see which are ok and which are not. If anything looks off-topic and/or related to the first post that started everything, it's going.

Fortunately, I don't have to get involved that often

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Brad

The moderators on our forum do a great job and they show more patience than I do.

When I have to get involved (as I did today) I am not going to pick through every post -- the initial one that started a turmoil and all responses -- to see which are ok and which are not. If anything looks off-topic and/or related to the first post that started everything, it's going.

Fortunately, I don't have to get involved that often

Brad, I can understand that and now I know. I can see how what I said, including the quote, could continue what was started. Also, I asked Nevada the question and didn't look at the thread again until my post above.

[grunewar]

Thoughts by Derek Fisher:

"We'll go to Denver (Friday for Game 6), and the game will be called differently. That's just the way it is. I mean, in high school, you go across town, and you know you aren't getting calls. At the highest level of the sport, why would it be any different?"

Rest of the article:

Lakers, Nuggets downplay refs' whistles ahead of Game 6 - USATODAY.com

[Nevadaref]

Obviously, the answer is to play at a neutral site.

I wonder what Fisher would think of meeting up with the Nuggets in Salt Lake City.