FT Lane Spaces

[Johnny Ringo]

Thank you ...

First right or refusal was meant that the team with the first right to that spot got to keep it or refuse, with the exception of the first space which has to the defense.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Thank you ...

First right or refusal was meant that the team with the first right to that spot got to keep it or refuse, with the exception of the first space which has to the defense.

It's called "right of first refusal"

[bradfordwilkins]

One interesting idea that I ran across recently -- if there is a lack of decisiveness, the offense must choose their spots FIRST.

For instance, lets say A1 (shooter's team) wants to be lined up next to B2 but every time he goes to that slot, B2 switches to the other side with B1. You can stop play, ask Team A players where they want to be and then ask team B players to take their chosen spots.

This also applies to choosing spots for a jump ball.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins

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This also applies to choosing spots for a jump ball.

On free throws I would give the defense last choice, but how exactly does this work for jump balls?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

On free throws I would give the defense last choice, but how exactly does this work for jump balls?

For a jump ball there are already rules in place to handle it. Once the referee is ready to toss the ball he should sound the whistle and thereafter any player who moves illegally should be penalized. The restrictions are very clear on who can move and how, and who can't. Just apply the rules.

[Johnny Ringo]

What would be the penalty for someone moving after whistle on a jump ball? The basketball at division line and AP arrow to the other team?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What would be the penalty for someone moving after whistle on a jump ball?

JUMP-BALL ADMINISTRATION
ART. 1 For any jump ball, each jumper shall have both feet within that half
of the center restraining circle which is farther from his/her basket.
ART. 2 When the referee is ready and until the ball is tossed, nonjumpers
shall not:
a. Move onto the center restraining circle.
b. Change position around the center restraining circle.
ART. 3 Teammates may not occupy adjacent positions around the center
restraining circle if an opponent indicates a desire for one of these positions
before the referee is ready to toss the ball.
ART. 4 The referee shall then toss the ball upward between the jumpers in
a plane at right angles to the sidelines. The toss shall be to a height greater than either of them can jump so that it will drop between them.
ART. 5 Until the tossed ball is touched by one or both jumpers, nonjumpers
shall not:
a. Have either foot break the plane of the center restraining circle cylinder.
b. Take a position in any occupied space.
ART. 6 The tossed ball must be touched by one or both of the jumpers after
it reaches its highest point. If the ball contacts the floor without being touched by at least one of the jumpers, the referee shall toss it again.
ART. 7 Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
b. Leave the center restraining circle until the ball has been touched.
c. Catch the jump ball.
d. Touch the ball more than twice.
ART. 8 The jump ball and the restrictions in 6-3-7 end when the touched
ball contacts one of the eight nonjumpers, an official, the floor, a basket or
backboard.
NOTE: During a jump ball, a jumper is not required to face his/her own basket, provided he/she is in the proper half of the center restraining circle. The jumper is also not required to jump and attempt to touch the tossed ball. However, if neither jumper touches the ball it should be tossed again with both jumpers being ordered to jump and try to touch the ball.

A player shall not violate any provision of the jump ball (6-3). If both teams
simultaneously commit violations during the jump ball or if the referee makes a
bad toss, the toss shall be repeated.
PENALTY: The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the
opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the
violation.

I've got an easier rule: No jump balls. Toss a coin, or give it to the visiting team. Use the alternating possession arrow, as it pointed at the end of the last period, to start the overtime period(s).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

For a jump ball there are already rules in place to handle it. Once the referee is ready to toss the ball he should sound the whistle and thereafter any player who moves illegally should be penalized. The restrictions are very clear on who can move and how, and who can't. Just apply the rules.

I'm familiar with that. I more interested in bradford's determination of who would be entitled to moving last, especially since there is no offense nor defense to differentiate.

[bradfordwilkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm familiar with that. I more interested in bradford's determination of who would be entitled to moving last, especially since there is no offense nor defense to differentiate.

Sorry, my brain was in my pro-rules for a second on the jump ball. I'm doing HS, College and pro-rules in different leagues each week so my wires got crossed. For those of you doing Pro-AM though that's good to remember haha.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins

One interesting idea that I ran across recently -- if there is a lack of decisiveness, the offense must choose their spots FIRST.

For instance, lets say A1 (shooter's team) wants to be lined up next to B2 but every time he goes to that slot, B2 switches to the other side with B1. You can stop play, ask Team A players where they want to be and then ask team B players to take their chosen spots.

This also applies to choosing spots for a jump ball.

There is no way to apply that to a jump ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins

One interesting idea that I ran across recently -- if there is a lack of decisiveness, the offense must choose their spots FIRST.

It does pose an interesting situation, but your stated solution is NOT supported by the NFHS rules book.

There is no reason that the referee couldn't decide that the defense must choose first. The only rule which currently exists that could apply to this situation is 2-3 and that leaves it completely up to the referee of the game.

I'm not passing judgment on your thought. I just don't want anyone thinking that there is a ruling which says to do it that way.