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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 04:25pm
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Rocky,

Now with alot of the crews that I saw in this area the past year, you and I could do a much better job as a 2 'man crew than the 3 'man crew that was actually working the game.
Ouch!

But, sadly, true in many cases!
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 05:03pm
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Ouch!

But, sadly, true in many cases!
An arguement could be made both ways. I've seen 2 crew that needed a third. All things being equal (great 2 crew vs great 3 crew) Do we really think the 2 crew would do a "better job". AKA "miss less action"
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:34am
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What are our feeling on the advanteges,disadvantages, likes, dislikes, personal preferances of these 2 crews?
I've not worked much 3-whistle yet but I like that I don't have to concentrate on as many things at once.

The trade off for me is the relative lack of movement throughout the game. One reason I enjoy officiating is the exercise. I have found the 3 whistle games almost too easy from a physical standpoint. Related to the lack of motion and lesser court coverage, I have also found it tougher at times to feel involved in the game, leading to lack of concentration.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:38am
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I've not worked much 3-whistle yet but I like that I don't have to concentrate on as many things at once.

The trade off for me is the relative lack of movement throughout the game. One reason I enjoy officiating is the exercise. I have found the 3 whistle games almost too easy from a physical standpoint. Related to the lack of motion and lesser court coverage, I have also found it tougher at times to feel involved in the game, leading to lack of concentration.
If you aren't moving much, then your crew isn't doing it right. You should be moving all the time to get angles on plays, rotate for coverages, etc. When done correctly, three person involves LOTS of movement!
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:50am
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I have found the 3 whistle games almost too easy from a physical standpoint. Related to the lack of motion and lesser court coverage, I have also found it tougher at times to feel involved in the game, leading to lack of concentration.
To feel involved:
Double whistles aren't a bad thing, try to double with your partner when you haven't had one in a while & take it to the table.

To sharpen your concentration:
Rotations & position adjustments will assist with improving concentration.

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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 11:23am
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. . . I like that I don't have to concentrate on as many things at once.

The trade off for me is the relative lack of movement throughout the game. One reason I enjoy officiating is the exercise. I have found the 3 whistle games almost too easy from a physical standpoint. Related to the lack of motion and lesser court coverage, I have also found it tougher at times to feel involved in the game, leading to lack of concentration.
The opposite is true for me. I haven't felt good about a 2-whistle game for a few years. I've had them, I just didn't feel good about them afterwards.

In 3-whistle games, the C and T have to move a lot to avoid straight lines and get angles. Since I am focusing on a smaller PCA, my movement increases to always keep this area in view. In 2-whistle, I typically just widen my angle to watch the whole PCA. This leaves me with a bad angle and poor view of some areas, but does let me see the entire area.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 11:40am
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3-man v. 2-man

3-man, just like everyone else has been saying it is better for the game, players, coaches, and even us officials. The one thing I like about 3-man is that it is a great way to help gain confidence in a young official. Putting a young official into a game with two veterans it gives them the confidence to make the right calls and be in the right position (angle) to make the correct call without having to guess.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 11:53am
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I am so glad I live where I live. We work practically exclusively 3 Person in every conference. There are a couple of situations where people do not work 3 Person, but it is rare. And I will not take games that are not 3 Person. No discounts or concessions to work with 3 officials. This has been the 11 year we have had 3 Person in all playoff games and it makes pre-games a lot easier to discuss things. No need to talk about where to stand, we can talk about plays and situations. It was rocky to work at the start, now almost everyone is on the same page.

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