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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 07:27pm
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3 crew-v- 2 crew

Good vs evil, Dark vs light, Big vs little. 3 crew vs 2 crew? What are our feeling on the advanteges,disadvantages, likes, dislikes, personal preferances of these 2 crews? There seem to be a constant battle with officials between these two options. Wanted to see how it was viewed outside my little world.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:08pm
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I really do not need to go into great detail. There is a reason every advanced level uses 3 Person crews and not two person crews. It is better for the game and the players, coaches and officials hands down. The game is much better called and officials do not have to guess.

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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:30pm
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An advantage of 3-man?

More no-calls b/c the officials are not guessing.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:33pm
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The biggest difference is that I'll accept assignments using 3-person.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:54pm
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The biggest difference is that I'll accept assignments using 3-person.
Must be nice to have that option. Elitist.

I can't think of any advantages of 2 person, except to the organizations that cut the checks.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 12:15am
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Must be nice to have that option. Elitist.
Not elite, just a primadonna.
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I can't think of any advantages of 2 person, except to the organizations that cut the checks.
And therein lies the problem. If more organizations would simply quote the schools a flat game fee no matter how many officials are used, then this "money saving" idea would go away.

Just keep it simple and have the officials divide the fee equally. That way the schools have no valid reason to prefer only two officials.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:59pm
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Assuming that all parties involved are accustomed to 3 man, and properly follow its guidelines, it is simply logical that 3 can see/correctly call the game better than 2. However, when an association (such as mine) calls mainly 2 man, and only an occasional 3 man, I find that the unfamiliar surroundings result in more uncertainty of what to call/not call, so the net result may or may not be an improvement.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:34am
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The biggest difference is that I'll accept assignments using 3-person.
Wow. Seems kind of cowardly to not accept two-person assignments. Kinda makes you go "Hmmmmmm".
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 09:33pm
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All of you who are using the terms "3 man" and "2 man" better switch to "3 person" and "2 person" before Juulie has a hissy fit.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 11:10pm
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Here's a solution

3 'man and 2 'man

now everyone can be happy
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:30am
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3 'man and 2 'man

now everyone can be happy
thanks for a good laugh, and a great suggestion, eyez. I love it!!

With regard to the subject, I think 3 'man is always better than two, although not always practical. Budget may be "just an excuse" in many districts, but there are lower levels and small or poor districts that really truly can't afford that third official.

Rich, specifically, many of the things you say are true. But there are a lot of games played even at the varsity level where there AREN'T 200 fans present, and even the 44 that are there didn't pay to get in, because if the school did charge, literally only 5 or 10 would show up. For larger schools, most middle-class districts and especially at the hs varsity level, I personally think 3 'man would always be an advantage, and worth the cost.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 09:36am
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2 Person

One huge benefit of 2 person is the ability of the crew to be consistent throughout the game. With 3 you increase the chances of someone not being on the same page.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:07am
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One huge benefit of 2 person is the ability of the crew to be consistent throughout the game. With 3 you increase the chances of someone not being on the same page.
With all due respect, that sounds like a poor excuse for a weak pre-game. IMO, there is no benefit to working 2 person games, 3 is always greater than 2.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2009, 10:11am
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One huge benefit of 2 person is the ability of the crew to be consistent throughout the game. With 3 you increase the chances of someone not being on the same page.
Disagree. With smaller primary coverage areas and less guessing on calls across the key, drives to basket, etc., there is MORE consistency in three person crews than in two person crews. JMO, of course.
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 04:23pm
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Disagree. With smaller primary coverage areas and less guessing on calls across the key, drives to basket, etc., there is MORE consistency in three person crews than in two person crews. JMO, of course.

Rocky,

Now with alot of the crews that I saw in this area the past year, you and I could do a much better job as a 2 'man crew than the 3 'man crew that was actually working the game.
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