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Originally Posted by Texref (Post 587708)

Don't see anything about a T being called, but here is the excerpt from the MHSA handbook for basketball:

Regular Season Breakage
a. Rim Breakage: If a junior varsity or varsity team breaks a rim while attempting to
dunk a ball in pregame, that school will be responsible for payment of the rim. If
the rim is broken during the junior varsity game or varsity game, the responsibility
for payment will be that of the home team. If the home team does not have a
replacement at that time, the varsity game will be rescheduled for a later date.
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b. Backboard Breakage: If a junior varsity or varsity team breaks a backboard
during the pregame while attempting to dunk the ball, that school will be
responsible for payment of the backboard. The team will also forfeit games
scheduled for that time period. If the backboard is broken during a game, the
home team will responsible for payment and the varsity game may be suspended
or rescheduled for a later date if there is no replacement backboard available.

<b>Tournament Breakage</b>

a. Rim Breakage: If a team breaks a rim while attempting to dunk a basketball
during the pregame, that team will be responsible to pay for the replacement of
the rim. If the rim is broken during the game, the cost of the replacement of the
rim will be drawn from the tournament receipts unless prior arrangements have
been made. If the tournament site does not have a replacement rim, the game or
games will be rescheduled as soon as possible.

b. Backboard Breakage: If a team breaks a backboard while attempting to dunk a
basketball during the pregame, that team will forfeit the game and be held
responsible for the cost of the replacement of the backboard. If the backboard is
broken during a game, the cost for the replacement of the backboard will be
drawn from the tournament receipts unless prior arrangements have been made.
If the tournament site does not have a replacement backboard, that game and
any other scheduled to follow will be rescheduled as soon as possible.

Sounds like this seals the deal

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Originally Posted by NewNCref (Post 587416)

Agreed, I also find this gem from the coach kind of funny.

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If a backboard is broken with a dunk in a game, Mount said there is a technical called, but it is not a forfeit. He wonders why there is a difference.

Well coach, maybe because dunking is legal during the game, but illegal during pregame? I'm going out on a limb here, but I think that could have something to do with it.

I know that several posters have criticized the coach in this case for definitely NOT knowing the rules. Is it possible that the coach was referring to a situation that is different than the one each of the posters is thinks he is?

I am thinking that the coach is referring to the fact that if a player dunks AND hangs on the rim in pregame, the player is assessed a technical foul. If a player dunks AND hangs on the rim during the GAME, the player is assessed a technical foul.

If the backboard shatters during PREGAME, the game is a forfeit. If the backboard shatters during the GAME, the game is rescheduled.

I don't know if that is what the coach really meant or not, but there are times when the writer misinterprets/improperly documents EXACTLY what the speaker intended (for those who have ever been interviewed for a story, perhaps you can understand).

Just a possibility in this case. Net: Be careful before you start throwing stones as you might not have all your facts correct.

I was watching a game at Arkansas State a few years ago when a player from Western Kentucky shattered a backboard on a dunk.
It was unbelievable to see this in person, but the safety concerns were scary.
Several players were covered with glass, and fans several rows up in the endzone had glass on them as well. A couple of players were treated for minor cuts.

The incident in Montana could have been avoided if the officials had been on the court. During the playoffs here, we work a different crew each game. As soon as one game is complete, the next crew hits the floor.
Of course, if they worked the same crew in consecutive games, I can see where the crew would want to refresh a moment.

We have several school here that have seats in the end. I don't like them. Usually, the students sit there and give the opposing players and officials a headache.

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Originally Posted by ma_ref (Post 587666)

What school is this, and when are you working there next? :D

Bellevue West...and my season is over, so it won't be till next year. :D

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 587670)

What school? I used to live in Omaha a thousand years ago.

The all-boys school: Creighton Prep, thus giving that student section the name "The Bird Cage" since they're the Junior Jays. The school with the balcony: Bellevue West. Ironically, Bellevue West didn't have a balcony there when I was in charge of a tournament back in 1997. They added it later when they expanded that end of the building.

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 587674)

The glass is tempered (sp??) and when it breaks, it breaks into non-jagged edges. Usually you have to bust it from the side to get it to break at all.

Have you had to clean this stuff up before? It's still glass, no matter if it's tempered or not (and i don't think we both spelled that right!).

There does not have to be officials on the floor... Only 15 minutes prior to game time we dont know when this dunk happened...

secondly ".... he told his team no dunking in pregame warmups, but when he got to the tournament there were other teams dunking in pregame. He told his kids it was OK."

The coach openly told his kids it was ok to break the rules...

Instead of the manuevering, just tell the press, that we apologize to the fans who travelled, our team made a mistake in breaking the rules that had severe consequences. The team learned a valuable lesson.

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Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 587447)

Oregon has had double elimination for years.

Not that I've ever seen.

In true double elimination, a team continues to participate and has a chance to win the championship until they have lost twice. What Oregon does have is a consolation bracket....sometimes called double elimination...but not accurately so.

It is true that two losses means you're done, but 3 teams end the Oregon Tourney with just a single loss....the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place teams (8 team final tourney in each class).

W+W+W = Champion
W+W+L = 2nd
W+L+W = 3rd
W+L+L = 5th
L+W+W = 4th
L+W+L = 6th
L+L = OUT