Interesting T redoux

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

What do those events have to do with this call? Nothing.

Again, what does this stuff have to do with the play in question? Nothing.

It does in some way, because he has been displined before for his behavior. That means that this is not his first run in with authority figures. And if this is the "extention of the classroom" which we are told often from the NF, the previous behavior matters in education to whether a student is expelled or suspended (and the length of that suspension). So why should this kid get a pass when not only was he ejected for two Ts, but one of the Ts was a result of an unsportsmanlike act? The player/coach/administrators history always plays a role in this situation.

Originally Posted by zm1283

I agree that the state association's decision really looks like they aren't backing up their officials, and that is disturbing. But, they really had to believe that the officials got it wrong during the game for them to overturn it, especially since you told us they usually back up their officials really well.

I just don't see what things like his past behavior, the score of the game, whether or not he got a T earlier in the game, or why the coach had him in have to do with the call in question itself.

Because if he has been in trouble before, if you allow to make an exception for him now, do not get upset when the same thing happens again. I have no problem with rules being changed or having a policy to review ejections. But would they have done this for some kid that was the 12 person on the bench and no one knew his or her name? I seriously doubt it and they will get more appeals in the future and possibly legal issues because they took this action.

There is a kid at a Chicago school suing a school because he was found cheating (just this week). Should the school change their position in that case because the school stands for a certain academic standard? And the basis for the lawsuit is that it will ruin the reputation of the kid that was found cheating. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

Peace

[mutantducky]

I guess you know better along with the people from the league. From an outside point of view the T looks like it was uncalled for. I think you have to put the other things aside unless he was warned for it and they added up in the game. I would support the revoking of the T but again I don't know the whole story.

[Adam]

The thing is, they seem to be saying it was the right call, but not an unsportsmanlike act. I had a player earn his first T by slapping the ball during a throwin once, then his second came later for arguing a call. The state, when I called to report the ejection, said he would not be suspended since they didn't consider the first T to be a sportsmanship issue.

This may be a similar situation.

[grunewar]

"Richmond, the Sun-Times Player of the Year and an Illinois recruit, received two technical fouls in the Bulldogs win over Fremd on Friday and was ejected from the game. IHSA rules state that if a player is ejected from a game for unsportsmanlike conduct, he cannot play in the next game....."

Concur with JRut - this incident reminds me of the OJ Mayo incident a few yrs ago where he received the two T's in a HS game. His "case" actually went to court so he could play in the upcoming nationally televised ESPN game and not be suspended. AND as I recall, he won and played in the ESPN game!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by grunewar

"Richmond, the Sun-Times Player of the Year and an Illinois recruit, received two technical fouls in the Bulldogs win over Fremd on Friday and was ejected from the game. IHSA rules state that if a player is ejected from a game for unsportsmanlike conduct, he cannot play in the next game....."

Concur with JRut - this incident reminds me of the OJ Mayo incident a few yrs ago where he received the two T's in a HS game. His "case" actually went to court so he could play in the upcoming nationally televised ESPN game and not be suspended. AND as I recall, he won and played in the ESPN game!

I think the Richmond and Mayo cases are very, very different.