the stare down

[GoodwillRef]

This officials favorite men's college basketball official must be Ed Hightower!

[JRutledge]

Three of four seconds is not a very long period of time. And if you are looking at them, you are looking at them to see what they are doing next.

This is not tidily winks we are talking about here. If a player is jumping up and down throwing their arms around, they are going to have me looking at them. Next move is a T if they do not stop or if they keep up their little antics.

The question that needs to be asked, what did the player do and what did his teammates do after this incident? But to say that we cannot look at players is silly. One of the most affective ways from my parents to get a point across was not without a single word being said. This works for officials too.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Three of four seconds is not a very long period of time. And if you are looking at them, you are looking at them to see what they are doing next.

This is not tidily winks we are talking about here. If a player is jumping up and down throwing their arms around, they are going to have me looking at them. Next move is a T if they do not stop or if they keep up their little antics.

The question that needs to be asked, what did the player do and what did his teammates do after this incident? But to say that we cannot look at players is silly. One of the most affective ways from my parents to get a point across was not without a single word being said. This works for officials too.

Peace

A look and a stare with the scowl are two different things. I understand if a player is throwing up his hands etc. As I mentioned I'm refering to normal fouls, that warrant no drama from an official especially when no emotion has been displayed by offender. Again silly looking in my opinion.

I'm always 'looking' yet I don't stand frozen, glaring at the offender.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

A look and a stare with the scowl are two different things. I understand if a player is throwing up his hands etc. As I mentioned I'm refering to normal fouls, that warrant no drama from an official especially when no emotion has been displayed by offender. Again silly looking in my opinion.

I'm always 'looking' yet I don't stand frozen, glaring at the offender.

All you said was the official stared at them and you said it took 3 or 4 seconds.

You were there and these things are very hard to describe. But to suggest that an official should not look/stare at players I am going to have to disagree. I have done this and it works very well for me. My job is not to be Mr. Nice guy with everyone; I have a job to do. I also give very few Ts during the season and it is often things I say and when I say them and when I look at players or coaches too. I would rather look at an official than yell at a player any day. And if it happen with a playoff official you might need to realize they did something right, they are still working. And the level would tell me even more.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

All you said was the official stared at them and you said it took 3 or 4 seconds.

You were there and these things are very hard to describe. But to suggest that an official should not look/stare at players I am going to have to disagree. I have done this and it works very well for me. My job is not to be Mr. Nice guy with everyone; I have a job to do. I also give very few Ts during the season and it is often things I say and when I say them and when I look at players or coaches too. I would rather look at an official than yell at a player any day. And if it happen with a playoff official you might need to realize they did something right, they are still working. And the level would tell me even more.

Peace

You may want to read again

"Calling official has a foul and gives the hard, 3-4 second glare "I gotcha" look to the player as if he was caught shoplifting."


And yes, you had to be there, so it's probably not worth discussing unless you saw it all night. As I said, it's a minor thing, just my opinion, and all I'm saying is the glare/scowl wasn't needed. On occasion it is.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Three of four seconds is not a very long period of time. And if you are looking at them, you are looking at them to see what they are doing next.

This is not tidily winks we are talking about here. If a player is jumping up and down throwing their arms around, they are going to have me looking at them. Next move is a T if they do not stop or if they keep up their little antics.

The question that needs to be asked, what did the player do and what did his teammates do after this incident? But to say that we cannot look at players is silly. One of the most affective ways from my parents to get a point across was not without a single word being said. This works for officials too.

Peace

Rut:

My dad subscribed to the same philosphy the Bill Cosby's dad did: When he spanked me he didn't hit for accuracy he hit for distance, .

MTD, Sr.


P.S. More importantly though, is I agree with your entire post 100%

[refguy]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

This officials favorite men's college basketball official must be Ed Hightower!

LOL! You beat me to the punch with that one.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

This officials favorite men's college basketball official must be Ed Hightower!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

But he lowered his shoulder ref?

Peace