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Old Tue Mar 10, 2009, 05:17pm
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Sounds like a good experience. Glad you had a partner you were comfortable with. It makes a big difference, doesn't it?

Just a couple questions:

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Couple of kids were talking smack then it was a push, push. So hit em both with unsprting fouls.
Were the T's for talking or for the "push, push"? This isn't a huge deal, but by definition, unsporting fouls are non-contact fouls (4-19-14). So if they were yapping and you whacked 'em, those would be unsporting fouls. If they shoved each other in the chest and you whacked 'em, those would be intentional technical fouls (for dead ball contact). I realize there's no difference in penalty or administration. It's just a terminology issue.

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As I am reporting it I get knocked in the shoulder, look over and its this kid who came up and shoved me in the shoulder. I couldn't believe he did that. Took me a second to comprehend what he did and I T'd him up. The T got charged to the HC because the kid was already disqualified.
Are you sure the kid was already DQ'd? It sounds like you hadn't even finished reporting when the kid bumped you. To be DQ'd, you have to be notified (or already know) that it's his 5th AND you then have to notify the kid's coach. If you had not already told the coach that it was his player's 5th foul, then the kid had NOT been DQ'd and the technical (which I hope you charged as flagrant) should not have been charged indirectly to the coach.
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 07:34am
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Sounds like a good experience. Glad you had a partner you were comfortable with. It makes a big difference, doesn't it?

Just a couple questions:


Were the T's for talking or for the "push, push"? This isn't a huge deal, but by definition, unsporting fouls are non-contact fouls (4-19-14). So if they were yapping and you whacked 'em, those would be unsporting fouls. If they shoved each other in the chest and you whacked 'em, those would be intentional technical fouls (for dead ball contact). I realize there's no difference in penalty or administration. It's just a terminology issue.

Are you sure the kid was already DQ'd? It sounds like you hadn't even finished reporting when the kid bumped you. To be DQ'd, you have to be notified (or already know) that it's his 5th AND you then have to notify the kid's coach. If you had not already told the coach that it was his player's 5th foul, then the kid had NOT been DQ'd and the technical (which I hope you charged as flagrant) should not have been charged indirectly to the coach.
Under FIBA rules, the fouls were both unsporting. FIBA uses that terminalogy the same as an intentional in NCAA.

As soon as the foul was reported and it was his 5th he is disqualified, even without notification so any furhter technicals or unsoporting conduct is given to the coach.
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 10:10pm
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Good Job SmokeEater!!!
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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 09:33am
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Under FIBA rules, the fouls were both unsporting. FIBA uses that terminalogy the same as an intentional in NCAA.

As soon as the foul was reported and it was his 5th he is disqualified, even without notification so any furhter technicals or unsoporting conduct is given to the coach.
I learned something new today. Sounds like you nailed it. Congrats again.
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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 05:19pm
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Congrats. I tel my buddies out here that it is always nice to have your name called. Good on you for having yours called.
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