The dog barks.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not so sure about this. If a team plays 6 and scores and we don't notice until after the score, the basket counts. Based on the interp above, that's not how it works for the barking dog play.

Good point. Does the barking dog (player), or the whistle for the barking dog (player), cause the ball to become dead?

NFHS 6-7: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when:
ART. 5 An official’s whistle is blown.
ART. 7 A foul, other than player- or team-control, occurs.

Snaqwells: Can you keep posting thought provoking posts like this for the next nine months? Please answer yes, and please keep them coming.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Good point. Does the barking dog (player), or the whistle for the barking dog (player), cause the ball to become dead?

NFHS 6-7: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when:
ART. 5 An official’s whistle is blown.
ART. 7 A foul, other than player- or team-control, occurs.

If one rules that the barking dog action is unsporting conduct, this would be the foul. When the foul, such as it is, takes place, the ball is dead, not when the whistle blows.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Good point. Does the barking dog (player), or the whistle for the barking dog (player), cause the ball to become dead?

This is the exact same as any other foul. I don't know why you would think the whistle causes the ball to become dead. This is simple stuff; you even quoted the relevant rule...acting like a dog is a foul which is not a PC or TC foul.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Does the barking dog (player), or the whistle for the barking dog (player), cause the ball to become dead?
NFHS 6-7: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when:
ART. 5 An official’s whistle is blown.
ART. 7 A foul, other than player- or team-control, occurs.

Originally Posted by LDUB

This is the exact same as any other foul. I don't know why you would think the whistle causes the ball to become dead. This is simple stuff; you even quoted the relevant rule...acting like a dog is a foul which is not a PC or TC foul.

I never thought the whistle caused the ball to become dead in this situation. Note the question mark at the end of my interrogative statement. It wasn't a declarative statement ending in a period. Further, it was a rhetorical question, implying that the answer was too obvious to require a reply. Also, sometimes the whistle does cause the ball to become dead, i.e., when there is an inadvertent whistle.

[bbcoach7]

It was pretty pathetic. I showed it to the kids in practice once and being 12-13 years old, they thought it was the greatest thing they'd ever seen on a basketball court. Then later in a game that wasn't even close, they begged and begged to run it, "just one time pleeeeeeeeeeze." I relented.

So they go in after a T.O. to run this play. As the official gives the ball to the inbounder, my player in front of the inbounder drops and starts barking. Nobody even seemed to notice! She had no effect what so ever! I don't know if they just thought she fell down to her hands & knees, or what, but it didn't work.

Originally Posted by bbcoach7

It was pretty pathetic. I showed it to the kids in practice once and being 12-13 years old, they thought it was the greatest thing they'd ever seen on a basketball court. Then later in a game that wasn't even close, they begged and begged to run it, "just one time pleeeeeeeeeeze." I relented.

So they go in after a T.O. to run this play. As the official gives the ball to the inbounder, my player in front of the inbounder drops and starts barking. Nobody even seemed to notice! She had no effect what so ever! I don't know if they just thought she fell down to her hands & knees, or what, but it didn't work.

Or maybe they thought she was having a seizure and thought it was an ample opportunity to make a steal and take off on the break!