Partner woes - Page 3

AK ref SE · #31 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 11:41am

Pleated-unpleated, belts- no belts, collared-no collared,
what next shoes----slip-ons, shoe laces, velco!?!?!?!?
Socks-single, double, support, nylons, long short...to many choices....and iw as worried about calling a good game or good game management!!

AK ref SE

BktBallRef · #32 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 12:31pm

It's all about being uniformed.

How stupid would it look for one official to have belted slacks and a collared shirt while his partner is wearing beltless and a v-neck?

I, personally, don't see a problem with an association requiring all officials to be dressed alike.

Jurassic Referee · #33 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 01:30pm

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Just what I need for my blazing speed!!

[/B][/QUOTE]Did you use your "blazing speed" in a game in Evansville yesterday,Tony? I see that they hit 5.0 on the Richter scale!

When you hit 5.0,you know you got PRESENCE!!

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jun 19th, 2002 at 01:34 PM]

JRutledge · #34 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 02:09pm

We are having a great discussion over the ins and out over rules knowledge. How in the world did pants become part of the discussion?

Peace

bard · #35 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 02:12pm

Because rules knowledge and game management are irrelevent if you don't have your pants one!

JRutledge · #36 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 02:21pm

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Originally posted by bard
Because rules knowledge and game management are irrelevent if you don't have your pants one!

Listening to some here, you would think you could officiate in a Foot Locker shirt and sweat pants and be considered a great partner as long as you got a 98 on the Part 1 and a 99 on the Part 2.

I guess that is why a D1 Official told me that officiating was much more than blowing the whistle.

Peace

ChuckElias · #37 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 02:27pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
Listening to some here, you would think you could officiate in a Foot Locker shirt and sweat pants and be considered a great partner as long as you got a 98 on the Part 1 and a 99 on the Part 2.

No, I wouldn't. Who are you listening to?

Chuck

JRutledge · #38 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 02:51pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge
Listening to some here, you would think you could officiate in a Foot Locker shirt and sweat pants and be considered a great partner as long as you got a 98 on the Part 1 and a 99 on the Part 2.

No, I wouldn't. Who are you listening to?

Chuck

I do not need to call names, that is not necessary. But the way I have been attacked on this board and the "other" board for just bringing up something that has been published, written about time and time again and talked about at many camps all over the country, suggests that is the case with some. Just pick up a Referee Magazine any month and read all the articles and you will see that blowing the whistle or make a call has more to do with how you are precieved rather than the calls you make. Just look at the July article in the Basketball section called "Good to Great" on page 68. I did not see "rules knowledge" as the top or only thing considered to become a great official. But what do I know, I actually read other things than what is said on this board. I actually attend camps, not just talk about them. I actually talk to officials other than on this board and that do much higher levels than I do. Hell I even have talked to NFL, NBA and college officials. I guess I just make these things up.

Peace

Dan_ref · #39 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 03:48pm

Oh-oh...looks like Tony got sent to the principal's
office.

rainmaker · #40 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 04:35pm

Hey, folks, can we get back to criticizing people who don't have a clue, instead of each other?

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by rainmaker
I still think I get the trophy for working with a partner who showed up to do his games in a striped shirt with "Foot Locker" still stitched onto the pocket!!

Holy cow!! Why would you invite that kind of abuse on yourself?!?!?!?!

This guy was at a weekend Jr Hi tourney, and was already there when I arrived. Wasn't much I could do about it. He also was "babysitting" his 7-year-old during hid games (I think he did about 6 or 7 that day), had several extremely inappropriate comments to make about my anatomy, and didn't know the carrying rule, the 3-second rule, or very many details of the travel rule. From what I hear, he's not working much anymore.

Now can't we all feel shocked together about this poor fellow, and band together to be superior and self-righteous as a very professional group, instead of tearing at each other's throats?

Thank you!

Oz Referee · #41 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 04:49pm

The uniform in Australia is shirt with collar and belted pants.

However, I once filled in for a referee - and didn't have my full uniform in the car, so wore black track pants with press studs down both legs. On a quick change of direction my thumb got caught between studs, and proceeded to rip off my pants. I was left trying to run up the court with my pants around my ankles with only a pair of bike shorts on!

Oh and by the way - I was 23, this was a Under 18's Girls game, and there was one particular player that I was reasonably interested in - it was fairly difficult to make eye contact with her for quite a while

(She now plays for the University of Virginia).

So there you go - uniforms can make a difference!

LarryS · #42 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 05:01pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Oz Referee
The uniform in Australia is shirt with collar and belted pants.

However, I once filled in for a referee - and didn't have my full uniform in the car, so wore black track pants with press studs down both legs. On a quick change of direction my thumb got caught between studs, and proceeded to rip off my pants. I was left trying to run up the court with my pants around my ankles with only a pair of bike shorts on!

Oh and by the way - I was 23, this was a Under 18's Girls game, and there was one particular player that I was reasonably interested in - it was fairly difficult to make eye contact with her for quite a while (She now plays for the University of Virginia).

So there you go - uniforms can make a difference!

And how long did it take your partner to quit rollingon the floor laughing?

What a great story...note to self...NEVER wear these type of pants to a basketball game (just in case)

LOL

Jurassic Referee · #43 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 07:00pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Hey, folks, can we get back to criticizing people who don't have a clue, instead of each other?

Not a good idea. Chuckie gets mad when we bring up the Bosox!

BktBallRef · #44 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 07:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Oh-oh...looks like Tony got sent to the principal's
office.

Nope, I went to edit it and unintentionally deleted it instead. Thankfully, Rut saved it for me, it's classic!

I love bustin' on him! He's so predictable!!

Juulie, that's exactly what I'm doing!!

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #45 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 19, 2002, 09:02pm

I think that this uniform discussion has gotten way out-of-hand.

NCAA: shirt: black and white striped V-neck

pants: black (belt or beltless; non-pleated or
pleated; the crew does not have to be the
same)

NFHS: shirt: black striped shirt (Byron collar or V-neck;
the crew must all wear the same style
collar)

pants: black (belt or beltless; non-pleated or
pleated; the crew does not have to be the
same)

What is the problem with wearing belted pants. I prefer the beltless but who cares as long as the pants are not faded, clean, and pressed. Personally, when it comes to pleated vs. non-pleated I think that the whole crew should be the same but the rules do not require it.

Having said what I said, if the StateHSAA requires it officials to all wear beltelss pants or V-neck shirts then that it what the officials are supposed to do.