Possession after a double tech?

[bas2456]

To be fair, in my intramural league, our supervisors generally have the same amount of rules knowledge as I do, so I guess they can't be entirely at fault here.

I'll remember this for next time. The rest of that game went off without a hitch, so if that's the worst thing that happened, I can live with it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bas2456

To be fair, in my intramural league, our supervisors generally have the same amount of rules knowledge as I do, so I guess they can't be entirely at fault here.

They most definitely can be faulted for interjecting themselves into your game.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

They most definitely can be faulted for interjecting themselves into your game.

If the supervisor is lacking in some rules knowledge, perhaps he is also lacking in some supervisoral knowledge as well.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by bas2456

To be fair, in my intramural league, our supervisors generally have the same amount of rules knowledge as I do, so I guess they can't be entirely at fault here.

To be fair, I would say your supervisor should have more knowledge than you!

[doubleringer]

Going POI is a relatively recent change. I think you went to the arrow as recently as 2 years ago.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

Going POI is a relatively recent change. I think you went to the arrow as recently as 2 years ago.

The "point of interruption" has been in the rulebook as long as I've officiated. It's always been a part of the correctable error rule. However, it was introduced as a formal definition and used for double fouls prior to the '05-'06 season. So the double foul rule changed 3 years ago.

[mbyron]

Astounding how many people believe that POI = AP arrow.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Astounding how many people believe that POI = AP arrow.

These are the people that can't figure out if POI always meant using the arrow, why the need for another term?

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

These are the people that can't figure out if POI always meant using the arrow, why the need for another term?

POI = Possession Offense Indicator

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Astounding how many people believe that POI = AP arrow.

To be fair, sometimes the POI really is the arrow.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

To be fair, sometimes the POI really is the arrow.

To be even more fair, the POI often, maybe usually, is the arrow. But they're not equivalent.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mbyron

To be even more fair, the POI often, maybe usually, is the arrow. But they're not equivalent.

POI is rarely the arrow. (ie: double T after a held ball).

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

POI is rarely the arrow. (ie: double T after a held ball).

You would also go to the arrow as the POI after a double foul during rebounding action before team control is re-established or after a double foul when there is no team control after a throw-in has ended.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by bas2456

To be fair, in my intramural league, our supervisors generally have the same amount of rules knowledge as I do, so I guess they can't be entirely at fault here.

I'll remember this for next time. The rest of that game went off without a hitch, so if that's the worst thing that happened, I can live with it.

Have them re-read 2-2 Officials' Jurisdiction

Obviously there are a lot of potential issues with a supervisor, but if the relationship is such that you feel confident you could say something along the lines of, "I hear what you are saying, but I'm going to go with my understanding of the rules." You could add something like, "If I'm wrong, I'll take a $5 cut to all my game fees going forward..... oh, and if you're wrong..."