So, how'd you like a game to start like THIS?

[OHBBREF]

really referes to restarting the game after a time out and the resumption of play procedures,(7-5-1 and 8-1-2)for a throw in or a free throw, then issueing a Technical after the complete cycle of proceedure.

[OHBBREF]

Several years ago during second round the ACC conference tournament - a rather well know official was sent home from the tournament, losing at least one possibly two more games), after issuing a Technical foul to North Carolina for delay of game after following, not only the rules but the guidelines given to the officials at the begining of the tournament.

In the first half there were a couple delays with NC having to wipe/dry the floor after having their time out out near the lane area. Early in the second half the game was again delyed by about a minute while the floor was dried after an NC timeout. At this point an official warning was issued for delay of game at this point.

About mid way through the second half after a 30 second time out the floor area of the NC bench was being wiped down and delayed the game again so a technical foul was issued to NC.

Coaches, Fans, Administrators, and Announcers lambasted the referee for making the Technical call in close ball game and the co-ordinator of officials said in a statement after the punishment of the official was made public that he expected better judgement from an official with that much experience in the ACC.

Note during the officails tournament meetings this particular delay of game scenario was a point of emphasis, officials were told that they were to do everything with in their power and the rules to prevent these delays from occuring.

So just be sure you are doing !

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

Several years ago during second round the ACC conference tournament - a rather well know official was sent home from the tournament, losing at least one possibly two more games), after issuing a Technical foul to North Carolina for delay of game after following, not only the rules but the guidelines given to the officials at the begining of the tournament.

Doing the provincials finals last year. Assistant RIC comes in from out of town, and eval'd me on one particular game. I guess he was sleeping during the pre-tournament meeting when the Head RIC quoted a provincial policy regarding the half-time mechanics that referees are to follow.

The As'st RIC's first comment to me: telling me that I mishandled the half-time communication with the coach. His suggestion: exact opposite to the policy set by our governing body.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Doing the provincials finals last year. Assistant RIC comes in from out of town, and eval'd me on one particular game. I guess he was sleeping during the pre-tournament meeting when the Head RIC quoted a provincial policy regarding the half-time mechanics that referees are to follow.

The As'st RIC's first comment to me: telling me that I mishandled the half-time communication with the coach. His suggestion: exact opposite to the policy set by our governing body.

If ever a YABUT was justified....

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

really referes to restarting the game after a time out and the resumption of play procedures,(7-5-1 and 8-1-2)for a throw in or a free throw, then issueing a Technical after the complete cycle of proceedure.

No. The resumption of play procedure is a completely separate part of rule 10-1-5b.

If the resumption of play procedure does not apply, as is the case in this particular situation, it is an immediate T to delay the game with no prior warning.

Just mark it up as yet another example of a rule that you don't understand.

[just another ref]

Enough already.

A vote.

Somebody set up one of those poll thingys. How many would call a T for the clown throwing powder up in the air and delaying the start of the game.


I vote no.

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Enough already.

A vote.

Somebody set up one of those poll thingys. How many would call a T for the clown throwing powder up in the air and delaying the start of the game.


I vote no.

Are you serious? You want to settle a rules question by having a poll? A poll in which anyone without even a basic amount of actual rules knowledge is allowed to have a vote? Great idea! Let the fans, players, coaches and non-qualified officials decide what the rules should be.

Don't you think that a better alternative might be to submit the question to a member of the NFHS rules committee, a state rules interpreter or a knowledgable, accepted source?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old_School

Are you serious? You want to settle a rules question by having a poll? A poll in which anyone without even a basic amount of actual rules knowledge is allowed to have a vote? Great idea! Let the fans, players, coaches and non-qualified officials decide what the rules should be.

Don't you think that a better alternative might be to submit the question to a member of the NFHS rules committee, a state rules interpreter or a knowledgable, accepted source?

He's talking about a poll here on the board. Not official, not binding. Relax.

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

He's talking about a poll here on the board. Not official, not binding. Relax.

And just exactly what would the results of said poll actually prove?

ANSWER: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

You could have one of the choices of the poll being the person who spilled the powder be castrated and horsewhipped. If 84% of the respondents choose that option, does that mean that is the correct and approved way to handle the situation?

A poll is a complete waste of time and a complete WOBW. That was my point.

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Old_School

And just exactly what would the results of said poll actually prove?

ANSWER: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

You could have one of the choices of the poll being the person who spilled the powder be castrated and horsewhipped. If 84% of the respondents choose that option, does that mean that is the correct and approved way to handle the situation?

A poll is a complete waste of time and a complete WOBW. That was my point.

Kinda like what your posts are becoming once again.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old_School

And just exactly what would the results of said poll actually prove?

ANSWER: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

You could have one of the choices of the poll being the person who spilled the powder be castrated and horsewhipped. If 84% of the respondents choose that option, does that mean that is the correct and approved way to handle the situation?

A poll is a complete waste of time and a complete WOBW. That was my point.

Good grief. Are you really this full of yourself? 75% of what goes on this board would be considered by someone to be a waste of bandwidth.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by Old_School

No. The resumption of play procedure is a completely separate part of rule 10-1-5b.

Just mark it up as yet another example of a rule that you don't understand.

I said 10-1-5b does not apply to the OP period

10-1-5a is specific to this situation
ART. 5 . . . Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes the following and similar acts:
a. When the clock is not running consuming a full minute through not being ready when it is time to start either half.

there is no need to move beyond this section of the rule because it is specific to the situation.

5b enlists the of the ROP procedure because it is specifically refering to delay situations where it may be possibly to use this procedure rather than going directly to the technical. This situation is not one of them so 5b does not apply here.