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I guess I'm only arguing the reason for the T. If you say the T is because the game was delayed excessively, I would argue against that because there is no time limit mentioned in the rules. If you want to give the T directly to the player for unsporting conduct, I would feel more comfortable with that solution.
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my initial judgement was that the action was unsporting. But I would T in either case (delay or sporting) The last scenario you posted with new finish and water is not the same. One is accidental - the other was done on purpose - knowing there would need to be a clean up.
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Again, I don't have a big problem with an unsporting T charged directly to the player. But I still don't see how a T for delay can be charged, especially without a prior warning. Also, there's a difference between charging a team technical for delay, and charging an unsporting T directly to the player. The team T only gets added to the team foul count, while the unsporting T also gets charged to the player, and as an indirect to the head coach, since it happened before the game started.
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I don't give a rats butt about LeBron or his actions - as juvenile as they appear all too often. I've already told you what I would have done and the reasons. If LeBron takes the 6 steps that the NBE allow - does that also mean we should allow this in HS too?
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Also, please notice the difference in rules between a T for delay, and a T for unsporting conduct. I still have yet to see anyone give me a good rules reason for charging a T for the delay.
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ha. this story is funny. I'm going to tell the people I play ball with about it. I wonder if LeBron uses something different because that has to go on the court as well. Maybe one day the stat and tv people will sue him because they inhaled so much chalk or whatever it is he uses.
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After some reflection, I agree with M&M that it is MORE appropriate to charge a technical foul for unsporting conduct to a starter who does this as it is definitely an individual attention situation and the NFHS has provided a clear directive to not allow such.
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Whole new question:
10-1-5: .......not being ready when it is time to start either half. Who ultimately decides "when it is time to start" the first half? The OP happened during intros. If game management says "Hold up while we clean the floor," or, for that matter, any number of other reasons, what authority does the official have to say "Game time."
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No way jose that floor is not ready for play anyway. Besides spilling water while drinking during a TO & throwing dust for your own aggrandizement before a game are 2 extremely different things IMO. One's a T & the other is common in-game court maintenance.
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