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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 12:11am
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I do it more now than ever, and I think it's because I carry it over from lead in the 3-man. I think you have to go where the action is at times and get a good angle.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 11:02am
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My association pushes this hard in two man. First, it gives you a better look at the post. Second, it's good training for three man.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 12:04pm
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At the level we ref, college intramurals, action happens fast and players can swing the ball from sideline to sideline in a second. I suppose going ball-side, when the floor is unbalanced pre-inbound pass, could help us get some good angles, but we've got to be careful to catch our sideline responsibility too.

I'll definitely go over this one with my supervisors.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 12:10pm
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At the level we ref, college intramurals, action happens fast and players can swing the ball from sideline to sideline in a second. I suppose going ball-side, when the floor is unbalanced pre-inbound pass, could help us get some good angles, but we've got to be careful to catch our sideline responsibility too.

I'll definitely go over this one with my supervisors.
Fair enough, but you have to consider whether losing the angle on the post is too high a cost to maintain an angle on that sideline.

Which is more likely to occur in your games, rough post play or a player stepping on the sideline on a quick reversal before the ref can get there?

Also, is the extra 12 feet going to make that much of a difference in getting a view of the sideline?

If the players are too big and fast, you migh want to consider 3 man. You have to make sacrifices in 2 man.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 01:04pm
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Fair enough, but you have to consider whether losing the angle on the post is too high a cost to maintain an angle on that sideline.

Which is more likely to occur in your games, rough post play or a player stepping on the sideline on a quick reversal before the ref can get there?

Also, is the extra 12 feet going to make that much of a difference in getting a view of the sideline?

If the players are too big and fast, you migh want to consider 3 man. You have to make sacrifices in 2 man.
I had to make a call on a ball bouncing on the sideline from a poor angle the other night. It clearly did, but I would've liked to have been looking at it straight on. It happens once in a while. Just part of the joys of working 2-person.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 08:25pm
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This is only my second year, so I have never experienced 3-man before. I have started to move ball side if I am fairly certain that there will be a post entry, also if I know that I have a competitive match-up.

However, I don't do a good job all the time of remembering my PCA there, since I have basically the entire weakside at this point. That's a great idea of angling yourself so you still can still be aware of the PCA.
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2009, 12:36am
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I do this rarely - maybe two or three times a game, average. I only do it when it seems absolutely necessary. When I see rough post play, or some pushing starting between two post players, I'll pinch in and then drift over if needed to get a good angle.

There are a lot of sacrifices we have to make in two man. For me, it's about determining which is the better gamble - will the post play likely lead to a foul that has impact to the game? If yes, then I say get the angle there. Sure, you lose the sideline for a couple seconds and might miss it if they swing the ball around. But you've got a better chance of getting the post-play call correct.

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