Madison prep writer not a fan of 3-person crews

[Nevadaref]

Rich,
You certainly know far more about what is expected in that particular conference than I do. However, I would not be waiting with the whistle if I observed what is shown in the picture. To me that kind of contact on the arm of a shooter is a foul at any level at any time. If the player is strong enough to power through it and score anyway, then good for him and he will be getting an opportunity for a three-point play.

Some of that physical play will clean up if the officials demand it by calling such contact. Either the players will adjust and stop making such contact or they will find themselves sitting on the benches next to their coaches.

Remember, they will do what you permit.

JMO.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Rich,
You certainly know far more about what is expected in that particular conference than I do. However, I would not be waiting with the whistle if I observed what is shown in the picture. To me that kind of contact on the arm of a shooter is a foul at any level at any time. If the player is strong enough to power through it and score anyway, then good for him and he will be getting an opportunity for a three-point play.

Some of that physical play will clean up if the officials demand it by calling such contact. Either the players will adjust and stop making such contact or they will find themselves sitting on the benches next to their coaches.

Remember, they will do what you permit.

JMO.

You know, there's the official word, and then, there's reality. Again, it's hard to tell how long that contact was for given the quality of high speed photography.

Like I said in my previous post, if contact changes the shot in ANY way, I'm calling a foul. If it forces more effort, forces the kid to alter the angle, timing, etc., sure. I am guessing this would qualify, but I only have one still shot to go by.

I had a Tuesday night game in the conference that week and I personally had four "and one" situations.

Using one still photograph to make sweeping generalizations and an entire column, though? Shoot, the guy just might have missed the call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Using one still photograph to make sweeping generalizations and an entire column, though? Shoot, the guy just might have missed the call.

Or better yet, the reporter was either lying or did not if a foul was called on this particular play or not. You cannot trust small town reporters just because they claim something to be true. There is a reason they are small town reporters and if they had any ability or knowledge, they probably would be covering something else.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Or better yet, the reporter was either lying or did not if a foul was called on this particular play or not. You cannot trust small town reporters just because they claim something to be true. There is a reason they are small town reporters and if they had any ability or knowledge, they probably would be covering something else.

Peace

Are you saying small towns aren't as important....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Are you saying small towns aren't as important....

You can tell that Rut is from Chicago (or a place like that) when a city of 250K people (and a metro area of 500K people) is considered a "small town."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You can tell that Rut is from Chicago (or a place like that) when a city of 250K people (and a metro area of 500K people) is considered a "small town."

That's the serious thought I had at the time. Personally, I like that size. Big enough to have everything you need, yet not unmanageable. And in my case, there's an NFL team within an hour's drive to boot.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You can tell that Rut is from Chicago (or a place like that) when a city of 250K people (and a metro area of 500K people) is considered a "small town."

Actually I am from a town of 10-20 thousand people. And small town papers in my state would be considered Peoria or Springfield (two of the largest cities outside of the Chicago area) which has much more people then where I grew up. And those papers tend to have very bias or slanted toward the covering schools more than a Chicago area paper that covers over 100 schools. I still read papers from the smaller towns (smaller than the two towns I just listed) and the coverage and opinions tend to be rather different when a small town paper is covering a game. In the media world, most people want to work in bigger markets because that means more money and more prestige, not much different as to how officials want to work in certain places as well. As a matter of fact, I am not in Chicago area right now. I am in my home town where I have worked at many smaller schools this past week and the coverage is completely different than a Chicago or Suburban paper.

Peace

[GoodwillRef]

I used to work in the league the writer is talking about in the Madison, WI Metro area but quit because of the assigner. This conference (Big Eight) has lost most of its good officials since the new assigner took over 3 years ago. The problem is not the 3 person system it is that the assigner has guys working varsity games that struggle with freshman games. If you put bad/inexperienced officials in a system they don't know very well they are going to struggle and it hurts everyone.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I used to work in the league the writer is talking about in the Madison, WI Metro area but quit because of the assigner. This conference (Big Eight) has lost most of its good officials since the new assigner took over 3 years ago. The problem is not the 3 person system it is that the assigner has guys working varsity games that struggle with freshman games. If you put bad/inexperienced officials in a system they don't know very well they are going to struggle and it hurts everyone.

Do I resemble this remark?

(The rest of my comment is being sent via private message.)

[Texas Aggie]

I'm puzzled by his ability to pinpoint EXACTLY when the play in question occurred -- unless it was clear it was at the end of the game. As stated, there is no way to know for sure what the fan was reacting to and its doubtful that she could react fast enough (not to mention all knowing enough) in that pic to know 1) it was a foul and 2) the officials weren't going to call that foul at any time.

[mcarr]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I used to work in the league the writer is talking about in the Madison, WI Metro area but quit because of the assigner. This conference (Big Eight) has lost most of its good officials since the new assigner took over 3 years ago. The problem is not the 3 person system it is that the assigner has guys working varsity games that struggle with freshman games. If you put bad/inexperienced officials in a system they don't know very well they are going to struggle and it hurts everyone.

I am in total agreement.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mcarr

I am in total agreement.

And I couldn't possibly argue, either.

But again, it's not the 3-person officiating that's the root cause of this.

[ga314ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And I couldn't possibly argue, either.

But again, it's not the 3-person officiating that's the root cause of this.

Maybe he's lobbying for 4-person crews. I could use the extra money.

Edited to add: I forgot to mention [email protected] is a twit.