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Old Thu Feb 19, 2009, 10:03am
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I hate to break the news to you, but, when a backcourt violation occurs, the throw-in as at a spot closest to where the violation occured. For example, if Team A committed the backcourt violation in Team B's free thorw lane, Team B would get the ball on endline in its frontcourt at the free throw lane extended.

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so, when i'm trail, follow ball into the backcourt, whistle the violation and give the inbounds spot as sideline near 28' mark, but partner stops at division line shaking his head and pointing there... well, there you have it!
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so, when i'm trail, follow ball into the backcourt, whistle the violation and give the inbounds spot as sideline near 28' mark, but partner stops at division line shaking his head and pointing there... well, there you have it!
Point to the throw-in spot that you know is correct, call the non-offending team to that spot, and either: force a switch with him needing to go to L, or you bounce the ball to the thrower-in and continue to the L position.

Don't even listen or ackowledge your partner's error; and even if he doesn't bring it up at half-time, tell him that he needs to review that violation.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2009, 12:35pm
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so, when i'm trail, follow ball into the backcourt, whistle the violation and give the inbounds spot as sideline near 28' mark, but partner stops at division line shaking his head and pointing there... well, there you have it!
I won't see him.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2009, 12:43pm
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so, when i'm trail, follow ball into the backcourt, whistle the violation and give the inbounds spot as sideline near 28' mark, but partner stops at division line shaking his head and pointing there... well, there you have it!
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I won't see him.
Most likely you're right. I had a partner the other night who did this. I had a BC and saw where he was heading, so I threw the ball to the correct spot. He chased it and walked back to the line.

Actually, that's generous. He administered about 8 feet into the new backcourt rather than 2 feet into the new FC. I noticed he did his quarter throw-ins there, too.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2009, 01:00pm
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Along these lines.....

My main assignor puts me on a few JV games every season, usually just single games with 3 man crews. Anyway, we had a ball go into the backcourt and it wasn't touched until it was on near the baseline. I whistle the violation and point to the spot near the baseline to inbound. The small crowd starts making noise and questioning the call because we are down on the baseline. When I end up by the home coach, he says, "I thought that was over and back?" I say, loud enough for the couple of rows of fans behind the bench, "Yes, it was, but the violation does not occur until the ball is touched. The in bound spot is the spot nearest the violation which in the case was on the baseline."

The whole crowd sounds like my students when I show them something obvious they missed in a problem solving exercise. OOOOHHHHHH. We get it now.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2009, 01:10pm
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2009, 01:46pm
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The whole crowd sounds like my students when I show them something obvious they missed in a problem solving exercise. OOOOHHHHHH. We get it now.
I love that reaction. I get it almost everyday in my classroom...about once in a blue moon at a basketball game. Wish it were the other way around sometimes!
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 10:05am
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Once in a blue moon at a basketball game.
According to the popular definition, a Blue Moon is the second Full Moon to occur in a single calendar month. The average interval between Full Moons is about 29.5 days, whilst the length of an average month is roughly 30.5 days. This makes it very unlikely that any given month will contain two Full Moons, though it does sometimes happen. On average, there will be 41 months that have two Full Moons in every century, so you could say that once in a Blue Moon actually means once every two-and-a-half years.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 10:47am
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This is where we need to understand rule differences....

We all know that in NFHS the ball goess OOB on a BC nearest to the violation. In the NBA it does in fact go to the midcourt line (FC side of it).

When people watch NBA or NCAA they think all the rules are the same. The more you know about the rules the better off you are.

My partner had a BC violation. (last to touch -first to touch)... The coach looks at me and I point and say last to touch-- first to touch.. Coach replies "not when he does not have control"... Your right coach for the NBA but were not playing those rules to night

(or my favorite... there are 29 arenas in the country that play that way but this is not one of them) (obvious slight to the CBA and NBDL but it still works)
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