30- and 60-second time-outs

[bob jenkins]

I think the myth comes about because during the interval to replace a DQ'd player, the coach can talk to the players but the other team members may not stand.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think the myth comes about because during the interval to replace a DQ'd player, the coach can talk to the players but the other team members may not stand.

Sounds right, but, as usual, for me, citation please.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

i think the myth comes about because during the interval to replace a dq'd player, the coach can talk to the players but the other team members may not stand.

Originally Posted by billymac

sounds right, but, as usual, for me, citation please.

2003-04 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

5. Substituting -- Player disqualifications

F. Only the head coach is permitted to be standing during this interval.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sounds right, but, as usual, for me, citation please.

Try rule 10 -- when are bench personnel allowed to stand? Is this situation one of those times?

Not trying to be harsh, but you'd remember more if the interps (like NevadaRef) iand know where to find them (like NevadaRef) if you'd spend more time trying to find them in the first place (like NevadaRef).

(grammatical errors intentional).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

(grammatical errors intentional).

Is this code for, "Yeah, I see them, but I don't want to go back and fix them"?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not trying to be harsh, but you'd remember more if the interps (like NevadaRef) iand know where to find them (like NevadaRef) if you'd spend more time trying to find them in the first place (like NevadaRef).

My biggest problem isn't understanding the rules, interpretations, and mechanics, but in remembering the many changes that have occurred over the past twenty-eight years. If the rules were the same today, as they were back in the early 1980's (change in status, lack of action, many jump balls, twenty-eight foot line relevant, "Cadillac" position, disallowed free throw inbounded at free throw line extended, always hand ball to inbounder, etc.), I would be as well versed as anyone in the rules, but it's difficult for me to keep up. I spend a lot of time reading my rulebook, casebook, and mechanics manual, maybe a little more time than most people, but, especially during the season, it's difficult to find time, with my day job as a chemist, to sit down, read, and study. I really wish that the NFHS would publish an additional reference, listing annual interpretations, and midseason interpretations, like the one cited by Nevadaref, that are still relevant, but, probably due to space limitations, do not make their way into the published casebook.

Also, maybe you view this Forum in a different way than I do, but I view this Forum as a resource. Am I being lazy by utilizing modern technology? When I know that there are Forum members who are willing to share their rules expertise with fellow members, why not simply ask for a citation. When a fellow Forum member asks a question, and I know that there is a citation that will clear up the question, I'm willing to post a citation, not a quickly as some members, like Nevadaref, but I'm still willing to help out my fellow officials when I am able.

Also, I don't understand the reference to grammatical errors. That's the only part of your post that I find harsh. My posts aren't at the level of mbyron, but I do try, to the best of my ability, to proofread my posts before I hit the Submit Reply button. My posts are far from perfect in the grammar, and spelling, department, but at least I try my best at making them "post-able". I've seen a lot worse.

Finally, like many other Forum members, I agree with the saying, "always listen to bob". There are a few other Forum members, who, like bob jenkins, get immediate credibility just by having their name attached to a post, but I, like Thomas, sometimes need to see it from the original source, the NFHS.

"Thomas said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."" (John 20:24)

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I really wish that the NFHS would publish an additional reference, listing annual interpretations, and midseason interpretations, like the one cited by Nevadaref, that are still relevant, but, probably due to space limitations, do not make their way into the published casebook.

I agree.

Also, maybe you view this Forum in a different way than I do, but I view this Forum as a resource. Am I being lazy by utilizing modern technology?

Yes, it's a resource. But, there have been three (or more?) posts from you asking for citations on relatively simple subjects when the citation was right in the current rules / case books.

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. (Padgett update: ... and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day). Learn to be a fisherman.

I can't tell you how many times I was looking for an answer to one question when I found out something else that I didn't know.

Also, I don't understand the reference to grammatical errors.

I was making fun of my own grammatical errors in my post.

[MikeCapps]

Several members of our association on our website message board are having a discussion about 30 second timeouts.

The rules states that teams shall remain standing, yet there is no specific penalty if a team decides to sit on the bench and not stand.

I have never had an issue with this. Usually just a friendly reminder to a team that it is a 30 second timeout works, but what if they refuse to stand?

Just looking for any thought on this.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by MikeCapps

Several members of our association on our website message board are having a discussion about 30 second timeouts.
The rules states that teams shall remain standing, yet there is no specific penalty if a team decides to sit on the bench and not stand. I have never had an issue with this. Usually just a friendly reminder to a team that it is a 30 second timeout works, but what if they refuse to stand?

timeouts

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by MikeCapps

Several members of our association on our website message board are having a discussion about 30 second timeouts.

The rules states that teams shall remain standing, yet there is no specific penalty if a team decides to sit on the bench and not stand.

I have never had an issue with this. Usually just a friendly reminder to a team that it is a 30 second timeout works, but what if they refuse to stand?

Just looking for any thought on this.

Put the ball in play as soon as the horn ending the timeout sounds.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by MikeCapps

Several members of our association on our website message board are having a discussion about 30 second timeouts.

The rules states that teams shall remain standing, yet there is no specific penalty if a team decides to sit on the bench and not stand.

I have never had an issue with this. Usually just a friendly reminder to a team that it is a 30 second timeout works, but what if they refuse to stand?

Just looking for any thought on this.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Let's Pick Up Where We Left Off Earlier ...

Nah, I prefer to consult the Past Interps Archive!

2001-2002 NFHS Basketball Interpretations

SITUATION 11: Each team and the official scorer have been notified that Team A has called a 30-second timeout. Team A decides to sit down on its bench. RULING: Incorrect procedure. The official should first inform the coach that his/her team is to remain standing during a 30-second timeout. If the coach refuses to adhere to the officials’ request, an unsporting technical shall be assessed. (5-12-5)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by MikeCapps

What if they refuse to stand?

I know what the crew of Moe Howard, Curly Howard, and Larry Fine, would do; pull the chairs out from under the players as they're about to sit down. Ask Mark Padgett. He's an alternate on their crew and is very familiar with their style.

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If the rules were the same today, as they were back in the early 1980's (change in status, lack of action, many jump balls, twenty-eight foot line relevant, "Cadillac" position, disallowed free throw inbounded at free throw line extended, always hand ball to inbounder, etc.)

Forgot about not allowing time out when 80% of the count was completed.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mregor

Forgot about not allowing time out when 80% of the count was completed.

Already covered it. That's what's called, or was called, a change of status.