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Post-game Ejection Question
Speaking NFHS
Can an offical eject a player without calling a technical foul if the event happens after the final buzzer? ### [sarcasm] I also learned that if a parish priest sits on his CYO's team bench and behaves in an unsporting manner, he is allowed at least three warnings from the officials before anything happens, and he can fraternize with the officials at halftime [/sarcasm]
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A priest actually sitting with his CYO team???? Wow, he either has cajoles or doesn't mind bearing the embarrassment!!!
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If I had T'd her, or better given her a flagrant T, she could not have played varsity that day, and would have had to pay other penance. Even though it would not have affected that game, she would have been punished for her actions and bad attitude, and might have learned a lesson. Moral to the story, T when called-for regardless of the time of the infraction. |
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Those Benedectine Monks Really Know How To Curse ...
One of our former board members ejected a priest who was sitting on the end of the Saint Anselm (New Hampshire) bench complaining about the calls. And last week we had a board member toss a police officer, who was there for crowd control, who decided to complain about calls. It's true. I can't make this stuff up.
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From a taxpayer's perspective, the officer should be required to surrender his crowd control earnings. He failed to do his job.
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So I decided to stretch my legs and see what was going on. It was then I learned he was just the pastor and not an assistant. *shrugs* I'm still not not sure why officials would allow someone who really shouldn't be on the bench (based on my interpretation of NFHS 1-13-1 and 4-34-2) behave in a way that earned him three separate warnings. Oh well, water under the bridge now.
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As for the ejction, yes, it should be a flagrant T. But who cares? You aren't going to shoot FTs unless it would affect the outcome of the game. The important thing is to report the ejcetion to the scorer in case there are ramifications such as a suspension.
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Juulie:
I had a similar sitch a few years ago. Visiting coach gets whacked early in the second half. Loses the game by 25 or so. As we are leaving the floor, he intercepts me at the endline and says: "I still think you're a jacka__, and now there's nothing you can do about it". I reply: Coach, you really need to spend more time studying your rulebook." Whistle, whack, his 2nd T, he is now ejected and subject to a two-game suspension. I'd pay $500 for a photo of the look on his face as I put the whistle in my mouth. (Didn't really need the whistle, but the dramatic effect was priceless.) In the sitch you describe, I'd have dumped the young lady. I take a pretty hard line regarding blatant disrespect from players. |
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I Almost Ejected A Cheerleader Coach ...
Well. Not Really. I just titled this post that way to get your attention. Girls varsity game. First timeout, in the first period, is a thirty second timeout, clearly signaled by my partner. Home team cheerleaders begin to come onto the court. Thinking that they mistakenly thought it was a sixty second timeout, I instruct them to get back on the bench. During the intermission between the first, and second, period, I seek out the captain and explain to her how to tell the difference between a thirty (shoulder tap), during which they are not allowed to come out onto the court, and a sixty (arms extended), during which they are allowed to come out onto the court. Cheerleading coach now gets involved in the discussion. She says, "We've been cheering during all timeouts all season long?". I reply, "Then you've been doing it wrong all season long". She was hot, so I didn't toss her.
My books in my bag. What's the citation for cheerleaders and timeouts? I hope that I did it correctly.
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would have dumped player in this situation. no need for this at any level. fines/suspensions would be warranted and appropriate from the governing body.
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Whistle Versus Automatic Handgun, Who Wins ???
Found out more details tonight. Police officer, who was on duty for crowd control, had a son playing. He gave the officials an "earful" during the halftime intermission, and was uninvited from the gym for the second half.
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I almost Choked when I saw this thread
This happened tonight. Boys Freshman Game.
Home team from a small rural area. Visitors one of TWO frosh teams for a huge parochial power. Visitors clearly think that they are playing a bunch of slow farmers. Apparently even started their second string. Home team hits two threes to start the game and have a little PG that is too fast for anyone on the "power" team to cover. My partner whacks the visiting HC in the 2Q for excssive whining. I overhear the HC complaining to his ***'t about how he is getting jobbed by these Yahoo refs. Little does he know that I live four blocks from his school. Now advance to end of game. Score is tied with :03 left. Home team inbounds at half court and their SG drains a 30 footer at the buzzer for a huge upset win. I am on the baseline by our lockerroom so my partner is behind me. I am standing in the doorway of the gym when I hear yelling. As my partner comes up looking hacked off, I asked him if that was the coach. He tells me yeah that the coach said we "F---ing Suck". I said, well we haven't left the visual confines of the gym, so lets cost this guy some $$$$. I walked towards the bench while they are gathering up there stuf and advise the coach that I am assessing a second Technical for the outburst and that he is ejected. I told him to enjoy his vacation and the class he will have to take. In Ohio, a coach is automaticaly fined $100 for an ejection on top of his 2 game suspension and must take an on line course on coaching ethics before he can coach again. The first coach's ejection of my career. Last edited by Ignats75; Thu Feb 12, 2009 at 11:41pm. |
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