technical fouls from a coaches perspective

[imagomer]

I've been awarded one, in more than 10 years of coaching MS and HS. Got it/desrved it for being an obnoxious fan, begging for calls while I was coaching, about 7 years ago. "That" me probably thought the official had been trigger-happy. Since then, I had the fortunate opp to officiate some MS games, HS summer league, and kids' and adults' rec league for about 14 months. That experience and this forum taught me to "coach the team" and not to "evaluate the refs." Nowadays, I'm sure if I earned a T, I would admit I had earned it and apologize to the official afterwards. It would probably straighten me up for a long while. And to answer the question, I would say it would remind me to respect the official more properly. A little like some would say that service of some sort or travel would make an American be more appreciative of his or her own country, I would say that working the dark side would make almost every coach a lot more appreciative of the roles of coaches and officials, and would make most coaches better coaches.

On the other side of the implied question, if I observed a coach abusing an official and the official failed to whack, my opinion of the official probably would drop a little, depending on a lot of other factors, too.

[Camron Rust]

I dont coach basketball but I do coach soccer. I've received the equivalent of a T (a card) only once in 11 seasons.

Back when I did coach, I got three T's in one season. First one, opposing player was in-bounds, and bounced the ball once out of bounds, and the official missed it. I made a remark to him when he was in front of me that the ball was three feet OOB and actually bounced off of one of the bench players; he T'd me up. As I reflect on that, I earned it because my tone may have been scarcastic when I said it.

The second and third T's should have been just one, but I blew my stack big time, yelled "this is bull****!" and kicked a chair all at once. Both officials blew their whistle and signaled T and decided that since they both had a T on me, I collected two T's and an ejection. I disagreed with them, but made a exhibitionist exit (ala Bobby Knight) and got my boys fired up. This whole thing ended up leading to me being suspended from our next game. As I look back on it, I was young and stupid, and definitely deserved a T on that.

[bigdogrunnin]

When I coached, I got 4 T's in 3 years.

One, my buddy was officiating our game. His partner had not a clue. His partner administered FT. Kid bounced the ball 3-4 times then lost it. The kid WALKED into the lane, picked up the ball, went back to the line and shot the FT. I asked him, is that not a violation. He replied no, and told me that was enough. Yep, I went ballistic. My buddy stuck me. We still run together periodically, and get a good laugh about that night.

Two, away game. Officials are not very good, and their effort was horrible. My kids getting the raw end of more than a couple calls. Home coach, actually stands up, walks toward me, and says, "Coach, I am really sorry about [the officiating]." I finally yelled at one of them that he was horrible. He started to give the T, then stopped. I glared at him and yelled, "HORRIBLE!" That did it. (I earned it.)

Three, same "partner" official as in sit. one, only HIS partner was actually worse. Visitors scores, my team inbounds the ball, and I request a time out. Nothing. His partner WALKS in front me (max. 5 ft. away), I ask for a TO x2. Nothing. Now I start yelling, "TIME OUT!!" (x2-3) NOTHING. Finally, the lead on the other end of the court grants the TO, then gives me a T for yelling at the officials.

Four, we are away. We start the game with 9 players. Home starts with 5 total players. Teams are pretty even talent wise, so I figure it should be a good game. That is until the officials showed up. BOTH from that town, BOTH graduated from that school, and one worked for the school district. They let them play, and it got rough. I asked for them to tighten it down, to no avail. Twice I requested TO's, but was not granted them, even though my player was holding the ball, standing near mid-court with no one within 15 ft. Fouls at end of 1st half (12-3). I know, I know, don't count, just call. 2nd half was worse. Foul count 19-1!! I lost it. I was begging for the T, and he finally gave it, with about 4-5 minutes to play. I begged him to give me a second one too, because I wanted their behinds to take a visit to the State Association's Office. (We video taped our games, so I had all the proof I needed.) Alas, I couldn't get it. One of the ref's did tell me afterward that he was going to throw me out of the gym though. I laughed, told him to go away. (Note: Varsity game, the ref who T'd me was sitting in the stand right behind the home team, cheering them on to victory!) Still gets me a little unnerved.

Obviously, I didn't last in coaching. ha ha

[ILRef80]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

(Note: Varsity game, the ref who T'd me was sitting in the stand right behind the home team, cheering them on to victory!) Still gets me a little unnerved.

Wow. This is completely unprofessional . Hopefully this guys has learned his lesson by now...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

Wow. This is completely unprofessional . Hopefully this guys has learned his lesson by now...

Are you kidding? This is every night in rural Wisconsin! And the guys sometimes sit there with their officiating uniforms (with just a jacket over it) doing it, too! Nothing worse than a guy who comes dressed and doesn't even wear different shoes into the gym, considering all the weather we have here and all the crap they get on their shoes.

And the funny thing is that some of these guys are among the worst officials I've ever seen and NOBODY gets on them. We come in from out of town, have new uniforms, shined shoes, actually work hard (some of the trails don't get out of the backcourt in the JV games and stand as if there are nails through their feet) and we get it from the opening tip.

And I wouldn't trade with these guys for the world.