Finally I have seen one, first touch after....

[mick]

I have often tried to envision 9-9-1 the way we have often morphed the play.

Rule 9

SECTION 9 BACKCOURT

ART. 1 . . .

A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team
control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by

the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.

BV, I was Trail and backing up as Team A had frontcourt possession and the passed ball was loose and bouncing toward the division line.

A2 touched the pass. [Ball still bouncing toward backcourt.]
A2 chased down the ball to save the violation. [I'm now on the division line.]

[Ball bounced in frontcourt then 12" over the division line (but did not touch backcourt).]

A2, chasing the ball, reached the ball and with his right hand batted the ball toward the frontcourt, and the ball landed on barely 1/2 of the division line and bounced into the frontcourt.

[Note: Defender B had slipped to the floor and was out of the action, so A2 was all alone on this play]

A2's momentum toward the backcourt forced athletic A2 [never in the backcourt] to tightrope, about 6 steps, a line less than 2 " on the frontcourt side, and parallel to, the division line.

Without having touched the backcourt, A2 recovered the ball.

[Adam]

How did A's coach respond?

BJV last weekend. A1, at the division line but still in his FC, grabs it, realizes he was going to lose the battle with Newton's first law of motion, so throws it off the defender's leg and it bounces into the BC. A1 then recovered legally in his BC. I'm C right in front of Bs coach, and he's audibly impressed.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How did A's coach respond?

BJV last weekend. A1, at the division line but still in his FC, grabs it, realizes he was going to lose the battle with Newton's first law of motion, so throws it off the defender's leg and it bounces into the BC. A1 then recovered legally in his BC. I'm C right in front of Bs coach, and he's audibly impressed.

I heard some *white noise* from the fans opposite, but didn't even give a look toward the Team A bench.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mick

A2, chasing the ball, reached the ball and with his right hand batted the ball toward the frontcourt, and the ball landed on barely 1/2 of the division line and bounced into the frontcourt.

If the ball touched the division line, then the ball gained backcourt status. If it was touched by next A2, isn't this a backcourt violation? Sounds to me like this is similar to a player dribbling close to, and parallel to, the division line, the ball strikes the division line, and the dribbler, while in the frontcourt, continues to dribble. Isn't this also a backcourt violation?

[mick]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If the ball touched the division line, then the ball gained backcourt status. If it was touched by next A2, isn't this a backcourt violation? Sounds to me like this is similar to a player dribbling close to, and parallel to, the division line, the ball strikes the division line, and the dribbler, while in the frontcourt, continues to dribble. Isn't this also a backcourt violation?

I think you are employing 9-1-1.

[mutantducky]

A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team
control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by


So if the ball is in control by A in the backcourt and on a pass the ball lands in the front court. The ball is then fumbled then tipped around. A is the last one to touch it and A2 recovers the ball in the bc. No violation because there hasn't been control?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team
control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by


So if the ball is in control by A in the backcourt and on a pass the ball lands in the front court. The ball is then fumbled then tipped around. A is the last one to touch it and A2 recovers the ball in the bc. No violation because there hasn't been control?

Not correct. Team A is in control the entire time. That's a backcourt violation.

[mutantducky]

? So the control in the backcourt carries over to control in the frontcourt? I guess the whole team that had control last remains in control during a loose ball situation.

What if, instead of a pass from the backcourt it is a throw in from the end/baseline. A1 touches the pass but there is no control and the ball is bouncing around and is tipped into the frontcourt and then by team A into the backcourt. Violation there? Does team control for team A start from the throw in?

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by mick

BV, I was Trail and backing up as Team A had frontcourt possession and the passed ball was loose and bouncing toward the division line
A2 touched the pass. [Ball still bouncing toward backcourt.]
A2 chased down the ball to save the violation. [I'm now on the division line.]Ball bounced in frontcourt then 12" over the division line (but did not touch backcourt).
A2, chasing the ball, reached the ball and with his right hand batted the ball toward the frontcourt, and the ball landed on barely 1/2 of the division line and bounced into the frontcourt. [Note: Defender B had slipped to the floor and was out of the action, so A2 was all alone on this play]
A2's momentum toward the backcourt forced athletic A2 [never in the backcourt] to tightrope, about 6 steps, a line less than 2 " on the frontcourt side, and parallel to, the division line
Without having touched the backcourt, A2 recovered the ball

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The bat by A2 that hit the division line gives the ballback court status but it is not in player control so ther is no violation.

once the ball bounced in the front court any player from team A could recover the ball because it now has front court status, great no call.

[mick]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

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The bat by A2 that hit the division line gives the ballback court status but it is not in player control so ther is no violation.

once the ball bounced in the front court any player from team A could recover the ball because it now has front court status, great no call.

OHBBREF,
I didn't make a great no-call, nor did I make a bad no-call, for that matter.