My first post-season action

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by fiasco

My 2nd year working JV and I got asked to do work girls JV post-season tournament tonight!

I know it's not much, but it means I'm progressing!

You must be in SoCal! Next year, you'll get the boys V state championship game then it's off to D1 and the following year, the NBA!

(Note the smilie - this isn't a comment on you, but on SoCal)

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

You must be in SoCal! Next year, you'll get the boys V state championship game then it's off to D1 and the following year, the NBA!

(Note the smilie - this isn't a comment on you, but on SoCal)

Why do you say that?

What's the big deal with just getting playofs. In all honesty the first couple rounds of girls varsity and even most boys varsity isnt much fun. The games are usually very lopsided as the higher seeded teams are way better than their opponents.

Until you get into the later rounds you are looking at a lot of cannon fodder.

[TonyT]

PLAYOFFS? You got to be kidding, I would just like to officiate a regular game.

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by deecee

Why do you say that?

What's the big deal with just getting playofs. In all honesty the first couple rounds of girls varsity and even most boys varsity isnt much fun. The games are usually very lopsided as the higher seeded teams are way better than their opponents.

Until you get into the later rounds you are looking at a lot of cannon fodder.

Not to speak for the original poster, but I think its an idea of "baby steps". You gotta start somewhere, and being a first year official, I would LOVE to have ANY playoff games my 2nd year, lopsided matchup or not. You can't replace game experience, no matter WHAT the game

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

Not to speak for the original poster, but I think its an idea of "baby steps". You gotta start somewhere, and being a first year official, I would LOVE to have ANY playoff games my 2nd year, lopsided matchup or not. You can't replace game experience, no matter WHAT the game

Agreed. Considering the large number of JV officials in our association, getting the JV playoffs is a huge vote of confidence.

The game may not be all that exciting, but I'll take the tip-of-the-hat nonetheless.

[deecee]

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

"Sorry Mr. Assigner, I'll have to turn down this JV playoff game in my 2nd year. I know you just need warm bodies and I won't really gain any experience working THIS lower level playoff game

Just kidding, I hear what you're saying, but I would still take the game and enjoy it and work as hard as I could and learn as much as I could from my partner!

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

The reality of the situation is that they don't assign these games to some joe-blow off the street or the first JV official they can get on the phone.

So, while I would agree with you that the physical act of reffing the game doesn't necessarily help me progress, the fact that I am working the game indicates that I have progressed.

[Texas Aggie]

they just need warm bodies for these games

This is almost certainly untrue. Around here in football, we have end of season "city championship" games for some jr. high schools in various school districts. Guys trip over themselves trying to get an assignment to these games -- even guys that don't ordinarily do jr. high games during the season (and those guys are wasting their time trying to get the assignment).

[dacodee]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

Sorry But I have to disagree with deecee. It's more than needing warm bodies. In my area, there are plenty of warm bodies. Assignors for post season get a lot of pickings. When you're fortunate enough to be chosen, you can pat yourself on the back. And know that you've done a great job. You are being trusted to "not screw up". We've all seen the underdog pull out a victory over one of the top seeds. I doubt it very much if the assignor for post season would just put a warm body on these games. You should also know that people are watching. The help you get from these games are exposure. You do a good job, you'll get called back. You screw it up, it will hurt any future post season assignments and maybe your schedule for next season.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by dacodee

Sorry But I have to disagree with deecee. It's more than needing warm bodies. In my area, there are plenty of warm bodies. Assignors for post season get a lot of pickings. When you're fortunate enough to be chosen, you can pat yourself on the back. And know that you've done a great job. You are being trusted to "not screw up". We've all seen the underdog pull out a victory over one of the top seeds. I doubt it very much if the assignor for post season would just put a warm body on these games. You should also know that people are watching. The help you get from these games are exposure. You do a good job, you'll get called back. You screw it up, it will hurt any future post season assignments and maybe your schedule for next season.

Agreed...you can't work a sectional final until you've worked a first round regional....under normal circumstances at least....and on the boys side forget about it, too much competition...

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by deecee

A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season.

Except the 60 point blowout in the post season pays more

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

You might get games because all they need is a warm body, but don't project that to others on the board. And even if it was true, it's really not necessary or helpful to say.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

Sounds like someone has sour grapes. And it's kind of a jerky thing to say. Way to go.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by fiasco

The game may not be all that exciting, but I'll take the tip-of-the-hat nonetheless.

Certainly better than a wag of the finger. . .