I "T"ed up the score keeper.....

[Terrapins Fan]

Why would you make such a statement? There is no rule prohibiting an assistant coach from speaking with an official. You should answer polite questions from any coach. By the same token, you shouldn't allow yelling at a game official from any coach either.

We are told from day one, we deal with the head coach only. Assistant coaches are not allowed to speak to us.

Now if they ask a question during a time out or intermission, that's acceptable, not during the game.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

We are told from day one, we deal with the head coach only. Assistant coaches are not allowed to speak to us.

Now if they ask a question during a time out or intermission, that's acceptable, not during the game.

Okay, you have to do what you are told by the higher-ups and what is expected of you in your area, but I guess that I would have to ask why are your instructors telling you to do it that way?

I know that wasn't the case when I officiated in MD. I was never instructed to not speak with an assistant coach.

[OHBBREF]

All personell at the table invloved in the scoring of the game are considered part of the officials crew. Now you could make the argument thatthe non official book is not partof that crew, but I personally would be stretching it.

I usually do not remove them the first time, in any game at any level.
I usually go over to the table at a dead ball and explain to them that they are part of my crew, and therefore have no opinion as to what happens on the floor, and if they want to express an opinion as fan there are the stands and if they want to be part of the team there is the bench. but if they persist on doing this at the table - the door is over there and that will be their next destination if I have to deal with this again.

works out almost every time. once in a while you get some one who wants to move, and by doing so there is a big target on their their back no mater where they go. the administrator has them as fan and the coach has them if they go to the bench.

[Terrapins Fan]

They tell us it just leads to trouble. Until the last couple of years ( 2 or 3 ) we we're to talk to the head coach either.

We communicated with the speaking captain only.

[OHBBREF]

If that is what you are told to do then d it that way.
I think you will have problems if you do not talk to the table, because they are there to help you out andyou should have a good raport with them at any level.
But if your people say do it that way then do it that way and justremove the clown if necessary.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

If that is what you are told to do then d it that way.
I think you will have problems if you do not talk to the table, because they are there to help you out andyou should have a good raport with them at any level.
But if your people say do it that way then do it that way and justremove the clown if necessary.

I was talking about coaches, not the table. Yes we communicate with the table.

I made a mistake by "T"ing up the scorer. I see that now. But you can't allow the table to criticize your calling. Yes, he was a parent of a player, maybe it was his daughter that I called the foul on, I have no idea.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

They tell us it just leads to trouble. Until the last couple of years ( 2 or 3 ) we we're to talk to the head coach either.

We communicated with the speaking captain only.

WHAT?!?!??!?

That's flat-out nuts!!!

Not criticizing you, but I think that's a very strange philosophy by someone back there.

[Terrapins Fan]

Here is what we say in our pre-game with the captains " Who is the speaking captain? If your players or your coaches have any problems during the game, they come to you, you come to us, we don't want to hear anything from anyone but you"

We still use that, but we do speak with the head coach if he has a question.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here is what we say in our pre-game with the captains " Who is the speaking captain? If your players or your coaches have any problems during the game, they come to you, you come to us, we don't want to hear anything from anyone but you"

We still use that, but we do speak with the head coach if he has a question.

I don't ask for speaking captains; although I find it's a more prevalent question around here than anywhere else I've reffed. I still have not found the information useful even when we get it.

[OHBBREF]

That is an interesting Philosophy - no talking to the coach?
Does that mean the coach can not talk to you?

We always have have Captains and We do ask for Speaking Captains per the rules.
How ever any player who speaks to me respectfully I will talk to, the only reason I use a speakig captain is if I want to accomplish something formally,
Such as a player who is starting to act like a knuckle head or the same with a coach or assistant.
I will ask the captain for little help with the individual.
other than that communication is a good thing to a point!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here is what we say in our pre-game with the captains " Who is the speaking captain? If your players or your coaches have any problems during the game, they come to you, you come to us, we don't want to hear anything from anyone but you"

We still use that, but we do speak with the head coach if he has a question.

I'm interested in knowing who exactly made this decree in your association. I work JuCo games in Maryland with a lot of fellas who work Maryland HS ball all over your state. I've never heard that come up in any discussions.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I understand you rules references but he is not the "Official" scorekeeper.

I don't think you understand the rules references.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think you understand the rules references.

Maybe he understands the references but has not used them.

[TonyT]

Tell the score keeper to just keep the book and be quite, if they say another word they will be replaced. I think that would of solved the whole problem.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by TonyT

Tell the score keeper to just keep the book and be quite, if they say another word they will be replaced. I think that would of solved the whole problem.

Be quite what? Be quite silent?