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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 05:00am
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Last night I showed up for a varsity girls game. I noticed during the JV game that both teams had illegal colors of pre-wrap. I sighed. Personally, I'd rather ignore it, but I just can't.

So, when the teams came out, I decided to handle it early. I walked across and talked to the home coach and told him that red prewrap couldn't be worn with white uniforms. Of course I was the first official to enforce that this year. I told him I couldn't control others, but I am giving him plenty of time to fix it. I then went to the other coach and told her what I had been talking about with the other coach and told her to make sure all the kids were wearing black (which was the color of their uniforms, too).

In the end, the visiting team gave the coach a beige roll of prewrap and that's what the kids wore. BTW, it looked worse than the red.

Before the game, the coach said he understood it was the rule and the playoffs were coming so they had to be in compliance and better now than then. So why did it take until their 7th or so home game?

Then we went the whole game with me wanting to say green (the town/team had green in the name and the trim of the uniforms was green). I think I was the only one who was annoyed I kept saying green instead of black, but I just couldn't shake it, alternating between green and black all night.

I don't know the final, but it was 42-13 after 3 quarters and my biggest goal for the night was to get in a good run, and I did. 8 fouls in the first half, 19 in the second.
Thanks for sharing, Rich. I had the same issue tonight. Girls in Black uniforms wearing grey/silver pre-wrap. We only have two weeks remaining in our regular season. Same thing from the coach about being the first official all year to say something about the color.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 07:45am
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Our association covered this in some detail, and strongly encouraged everyone to enforce it. I haven't heard "you're the first to enforce that" except once at a middle school game.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 08:46am
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Our association covered this in some detail, and strongly encouraged everyone to enforce it. .
"Strongly encouraged" or "required?"
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 06:29pm
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Well I had an eye rolling experience with my partner last night, she was the referee so all I could do is roll my eyes.

Home team has orange pre-wrap in the hair, I make mention of it to her, as we meet with captains she brings up the color, and say since white is not a color and that because they have orange trim he will let them use the orange head bands as it....

I roll my eyes...
We did work well on the game...
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 06:47pm
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Medical Alert Bracelet ???

NFHS 3-5-7: Jewelry is prohibited. Religious and medical-alert medals are not
considered jewelry. A religious medal must be taped and worn under the uniform. A medical-alert medal must be taped and may be visible.

Home team is wearing white jerseys. During the third period, I notice that a home team player is wearing a red wristband. During a dead ball, clock stopped situation, I tell him that he can't play with the red wristband on. He tells me it's a special wristband to cover his medical alert bracelet, and sure enough, he shows me his bracelet, and he shows me the red wristband with a white medical alert logo on it. Using intent and purpose, I decided that if it was taped, as stated by rule, the tape could have been any color, and since this was obviously a special medical alert bracelet wristband, I let him continue to play. Has anyone else seen these special red medical alert bracelet wristbands, which, by the way, I think are a good idea and should be allowed by the NFHS? Anybody have a problem with me allowing the young man to continue to play with this illegal equipment?

Man, I hate being the Fashion Police. It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.
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BillyMac,

That is a tough SIT, Common sense says you did the right thing, but PURE rule being a Fashion 5-0 is tough
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 02:37am
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NFHS 3-5-7: Jewelry is prohibited. Religious and medical-alert medals are not
considered jewelry. A religious medal must be taped and worn under the uniform. A medical-alert medal must be taped and may be visible.

Home team is wearing white jerseys. During the third period, I notice that a home team player is wearing a red wristband. During a dead ball, clock stopped situation, I tell him that he can't play with the red wristband on. He tells me it's a special wristband to cover his medical alert bracelet, and sure enough, he shows me his bracelet, and he shows me the red wristband with a white medical alert logo on it. Using intent and purpose, I decided that if it was taped, as stated by rule, the tape could have been any color, and since this was obviously a special medical alert bracelet wristband, I let him continue to play. Has anyone else seen these special red medical alert bracelet wristbands, which, by the way, I think are a good idea and should be allowed by the NFHS? Anybody have a problem with me allowing the young man to continue to play with this illegal equipment?

Man, I hate being the Fashion Police. It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.
I would consider the entire thing his medical alert bracelet.

It's okay.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 08:13am
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NFHS 3-5-7: Jewelry is prohibited. Religious and medical-alert medals are not
considered jewelry. A religious medal must be taped and worn under the uniform. A medical-alert medal must be taped and may be visible.

Home team is wearing white jerseys. During the third period, I notice that a home team player is wearing a red wristband. During a dead ball, clock stopped situation, I tell him that he can't play with the red wristband on. He tells me it's a special wristband to cover his medical alert bracelet, and sure enough, he shows me his bracelet, and he shows me the red wristband with a white medical alert logo on it. Using intent and purpose, I decided that if it was taped, as stated by rule, the tape could have been any color, and since this was obviously a special medical alert bracelet wristband, I let him continue to play. Has anyone else seen these special red medical alert bracelet wristbands, which, by the way, I think are a good idea and should be allowed by the NFHS? Anybody have a problem with me allowing the young man to continue to play with this illegal equipment?

Man, I hate being the Fashion Police. It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.
BillyMac,
I think you "done good", here.
Per 3-5-2c and d.
c. Knee and ankle braces are permitted but all exposed hinges must be
covered. Most over-sleeves recommended by manufacturers are
acceptable.
These braces may be padded or unpadded.
d. Must be worn for medical reasons.

Per 3-5-7.
ART. 7 . . . Jewelry is prohibited. Religious and medical-alert medals are not
considered jewelry
. A religious medal must be taped and worn under the uniform. A medical-alert medal must be taped and may be visible.

I would use 3-5-2c indicating that a manufacturers "over-sleeve" (in this case a red sweatband) recommended by the manufacturer (it had the medical alert logo on it) are acceptable. Further, since a medical alert bracelet must be taped, I would say that the red sweatband is now making it visible.

Having the rule behind me makes me feel better about allowing it. The common sense side of me would have allowed it regardless if I could support it by rule. After all, red is a fairly well recognized medical color.
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NFHS 3-5-7: Jewelry is prohibited. Religious and medical-alert medals are not considered jewelry. A religious medal must be taped and worn under the uniform. A medical-alert medal must be taped and may be visible.

Home team is wearing white jerseys. During the third period, I notice that a home team player is wearing a red wristband. During a dead ball, clock stopped situation, I tell him that he can't play with the red wristband on. He tells me it's a special wristband to cover his medical alert bracelet, and sure enough, he shows me his bracelet, and he shows me the red wristband with a white medical alert logo on it.
Sounds like something EMTs would know all about. If, just if, that kid goes down relating to whatever medical condition he had, or down from whatever reason and EMTs are on scene and aren't aware of that taped medal (covered by a legal wristband) which would give them vital info it would not be good. I think you absolutely did the correct thing.

I would inform partner and both coaches that you have deemed, as bJenks suggests, that they wristband is part of the medal and is legal in this sitch.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 05:01pm
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Had a V girls game at a large school a couple of weeks ago. Home team is wearing white trimmed in orange and black. Every girl on the team has orange prewrap around their heads. It actually looked really nice.
The R went to the coach and told her the orange was illegal. She said it had been permitted all year... matched the uniform colors... blah, blah.
When we started the game, the coach, players, and home crowd were all mad.

Had the same team on the road yesterday. They were wearing orange (trimmed in white & black), and every player had beige prewrap. During pregame conference, the coach made sure she pointed this out to me. I told her, "Coach, orange would've been legal tonight."
By the look on her face, she still doesn't understand the rule!
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 05:10pm
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Early in the season I adopted the approach of finding one of the girls on the offending team, and making her the 'expert' on the team by explaining the rule in all its variations.

Just like in rec ball when a parent volunteer steps to the table to do the clock, but doesn't know how to operate it I always say, "find a teenager or younger... they'll figure it out for you."
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 10:48am
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Thanks for sharing, Rich. I had the same issue tonight. Girls in Black uniforms wearing grey/silver pre-wrap.
That pre-wrap is (I think) listed as "black" on the package, but looks grey when stretched.

It's allowed here (with any color jersey).
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 11:12am
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That pre-wrap is (I think) listed as "black" on the package, but looks grey when stretched.

It's allowed here (with any color jersey).
Yes, I had the same thing with the visiting team in the same game.

They said it was black in the package, but grey/silver when stretched. I allowed it and it wasn't a problem (as I anticipated it might be).

It's a terribly thought out rule. The beige looks terrible and home teams essentially have one less choice in color. The red prewrap looked fine, matching the red trim on the home uniforms, but again, I'm not a fashion consultant.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 04:30pm
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That pre-wrap is (I think) listed as "black" on the package, but looks grey when stretched.

It's allowed here (with any color jersey).
Someone else mentioned that on here a few weeks ago. It might have been mick. I had forgotten that point and it didn't occur to me on the floor.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2009, 04:32pm
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I wish the rule would just say it has to be the same color for everyone on the team and it has to match any wristbands. That makes plenty of sense. I enforce the rule now as it is, but it's overkill.
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