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Old Thu Jan 29, 2009, 10:27am
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From the article: "When an organization called the Lehigh Valley Coalition on Sports Ethics brought in top-notch speakers and held forums on the parent-coach subject, attendance was poor."

''The other guy has a problem, not me,'' is the thinking most parents have.

To confirm this point, at my annual Parents Meeting (back when I coached), I would ask two questions:
1. How many of you think that at least one player will smoke and/or drink alcohol during the season?
2. How many of you think that it will be your son?

Virtually all parents raised their hands in response to the first question. I rarely ever had a parent raise a hand in response to the second. Of course, these two questions provided a perfect lead in to the topic of drug/alcohol abuse.

Parents feel the same way about "out of line parents" complaining to coaches and ADs (and referees). Their complaining is always reasonable, it the other parents who cross the line.
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Old Thu Jan 29, 2009, 06:12pm
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In Ohio, the HS coaches are limited in the off season to 10 days of coaching, and that includes any games!!!! The vaccuum has been filled by the AAU and too many of the AAU coaches are limited in ability and many have hidden agendas. They sell the parents on the possibility of sschollies if little Mary plays in their program and most of these girls have no shot at a one. I know. My daughter was a 2 time all state player and only got an NAIA schollie. I see some of these kids and listen to their parents and just laugh inside. Most have a sliver of my daughter's talent and every time I call a foul the parents act like I am jeopardizing their darling daughter's (or son's) future. The parents spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on travel basketball and in most cases its a waste of money.

I am using the article as a chance to write a letter to the District governor of the OHSAA about their antiquated rules. I had a 10 mintute conversation this week with the AD at my younger daughter's school and he agreed with everything I said. Its funny that then this came up.
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Old Thu Jan 29, 2009, 10:02pm
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In Ohio, the HS coaches are limited in the off season to 10 days of coaching, and that includes any games!!!! The vaccuum has been filled by the AAU and too many of the AAU coaches are limited in ability and many have hidden agendas. They sell the parents on the possibility of sschollies if little Mary plays in their program and most of these girls have no shot at a one. I know. My daughter was a 2 time all state player and only got an NAIA schollie. I see some of these kids and listen to their parents and just laugh inside. Most have a sliver of my daughter's talent and every time I call a foul the parents act like I am jeopardizing their darling daughter's (or son's) future. The parents spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on travel basketball and in most cases its a waste of money.

I am using the article as a chance to write a letter to the District governor of the OHSAA about their antiquated rules. I had a 10 mintute conversation this week with the AD at my younger daughter's school and he agreed with everything I said. Its funny that then this came up.
I agree with you, for the most part. While Ohio's 10-Day Rule may have been a good idea 15 - 20 years ago, it is not anymore. Kids play 50+ soccer game outside the HS season of 20 - 25 games. Kids play baseball for 50+ Legion games in the Summer in addition to the 25 - 30 game HS season. The "real" basketball season starts the week after the HS season ends. Kids then play 7, 8, 9 or 10 tournaments (21 - 50+ games) between March 15th and June 15th. Most kids then return to their coaches for several shootouts in the Summer with their HS coaches.

Some AAU coaches are very good. MANY have their own agendas. Many are in it for the wrong reasons. Unfortunately, the HS coaches are required to be out of the picture all Spring and much of the Summer.

Why? Because the OHSAA does not want to "force" the kids to play in the offseason. The thinking is that if the coach is involved, the kids will feel obligated to play. Once again, the concept was probably reasonable years ago. Now, the top players are playing constantly. I think that letting the players play for HS coaches would make much more sense since many of the players ARE playing almost all year round.

There is no perfect answer, but the bucks being charged for off-season play is getting out of hand.
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Old Fri Jan 30, 2009, 08:35am
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From the article: "When an organization called the Lehigh Valley Coalition on Sports Ethics brought in top-notch speakers and held forums on the parent-coach subject, attendance was poor."

''The other guy has a problem, not me,'' is the thinking most parents have.

To confirm this point, at my annual Parents Meeting (back when I coached), I would ask two questions:
1. How many of you think that at least one player will smoke and/or drink alcohol during the season?
2. How many of you think that it will be your son?

Virtually all parents raised their hands in response to the first question. I rarely ever had a parent raise a hand in response to the second. Of course, these two questions provided a perfect lead in to the topic of drug/alcohol abuse.

Parents feel the same way about "out of line parents" complaining to coaches and ADs (and referees). Their complaining is always reasonable, it the other parents who cross the line.
Denial is such a pretty thing. Or is it just the way humans are.

I'm beginning to see it as theatre of the absurd.
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