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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 09:16am
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the rules interpreter said three. His reasoning which I know is wrong was that an intentional foul is a technical foul, so you shoot one for the foul and two for the technical.
That is scary. Your board might want to think about getting a new interpreter...
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 08:47am
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Earlier in this post I asked about how many shots on an intentinal foul.

Very simular situation. A1 drive to the basket B1 pushes A1 from behind real hard into the wall the basket is good. The trail referee call a flagrant technical foul and ejects the player. They then shoot one for the foul and two for the technical. Is this correct?
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 08:59am
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technical vs personal foul

There are several things to consider in this situation...

Is the ball live or dead. The ball becomes dead when it goes through the hoop in this situation.

This decision must be made before you can continue.

If ball is live, the second decision is whether or not the foul was intentional or not.

If not, count basket and one FT. If yes, count basket and two FTs Ball is inbounded by team that was fouled nearest spot of foul.

The third decision is whether or not it is flagrant or not. If no, nothing else, if yes, then you have an ejection and paperwork etc.

If ball is dead, the second decision is whether or not contact should be ignored or not.

In this case I think it can not be ignored. No you have a technical foul. Now you must determine if flagrant or not.

Count basket, two FTs and the ball on division line opposite table.

So many decisions. I recommend that before you report any of this, you send both teams to bench area and have a conference with your partner(s) and make sure you are both on same page and you go through the entire sequence of what is going to happen.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 09:01am
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Earlier in this post I asked about how many shots on an intentinal foul.

Very simular situation. A1 drive to the basket B1 pushes A1 from behind real hard into the wall the basket is good. The trail referee call a flagrant technical foul and ejects the player. They then shoot one for the foul and two for the technical. Is this correct?
No. Only one foul was issued: therefore only one penalty is applied. There are no penalties where you enforce "the and 1" and two more.

Count the basket, report the flagrant foul, and award two shots.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 09:42am
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Earlier in this post I asked about how many shots on an intentinal foul.

Very simular situation. A1 drive to the basket B1 pushes A1 from behind real hard into the wall the basket is good. The trail referee call a flagrant technical foul and ejects the player. They then shoot one for the foul and two for the technical. Is this correct?
Since they "shot one for the foul", the ball must have been live. So, the correct call is Flagrant Personal Foul, not Flagrant Technical foul.

And, one foul, one penalty.
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