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"Grabs her but good" could mean a lot of things to a lot of people. I would say it's a had to be there thing, but if the foul takes place after it is at the disposal of the thrower, (live ball) it sounds like either a common foul or an intentional foul.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009, 05:45am
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Totally had to be there. It's hard to sell an intentional foul on a throw-in, so if you're on the fence, go with the common foul for a hold. If it's just a grab, I have a common foul. If it's a grab the holding forces A's momentum to change suddenly/excessively, and A is significantly displaced, then I could easily see an excessive contact foul. Could you have used yoru voice at all to prevent the foul, though?
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Wed Jan 21, 2009, 08:33am
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You must first decide whether the ball is at the disposal of the thrower.
If not, then the ball is dead: ignore the contact unless flagrant or excessive (intentional), in which case call a T (flagrant or intentional). If so, then the ball is live: call a personal foul unless flagrant or excessive (intentional), in which case call a flagrant personal or an intentional foul.
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