Intentional Technical Foul

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

I think we would need to know more the situation, But if you thought it should be assessed as a IntFoul, I would come up with the T 1st, not sure I would ever even give the INTFOUL signal, but that is just me. The important thing is to communicate it is a T, and such activity need not need to occur.

It is one or the other, but not both...sounds like it was dead ball so it is a tech, if the ball is at the disposal of the thrower when it happens and you judge it to be intentional contact then it is an intentional foul, but you shouldn't signal both...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

It is one or the other, but not both...sounds like it was dead ball so it is a tech, if the ball is at the disposal of the thrower when it happens and you judge it to be intentional contact then it is an intentional foul, but you shouldn't signal both...

It is both if the ball is dead. You're right that you don't signal both; signal the tech since that's the most important part of the definition.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It is both if the ball is dead. You're right that you don't signal both; signal the tech since that's the most important part of the definition.

Help me out here, looking at page 71 of current fed rule book, the technical foul summary - where do we see "intentional technical"?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

Help me out here, looking at page 71 of current fed rule book, the technical foul summary - where do we see "intentional technical"?

It's not there because the penalties don't differ. The reference is already posted for you above, in rule 4-19.

Originally Posted by slow whistle

Help me out here, looking at page 71 of current fed rule book, the technical foul summary - where do we see "intentional technical"?

Try the Rule 4-19

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

It is one or the other, but not both...sounds like it was dead ball so it is a tech, if the ball is at the disposal of the thrower when it happens and you judge it to be intentional contact then it is an intentional foul, but you shouldn't signal both...

It is both, but you only signal the T. In HS and NCAA-M, this is an intentional technical foul.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

It is both, but you only signal the T. In HS and NCAA-M, this is an intentional technical foul.

So signal T at the spot...come to the table, Color, number, signal "T", Intentional?, Push, (put my left foot in, left foot out, left foot in, and shake it all about), administer free throws, put ball back in play at the spot of the foul (in this instance backcourt endline since the foul happened in the backcourt lane). Thanks all

-Josh

[Adam]

I wouldn't even use the word "intentional." It's only likely to confuse the scorers, coaches, players, and fans (and maybe even the officials).

Ball goes into play at the division line, though, since it's a technical foul.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by jdmara

So signal T at the spot...come to the table, Color, number, signal "T", Intentional?, Push, (put my left foot in, left foot out, left foot in, and shake it all about), administer free throws, put ball back in play at the spot of the foul (in this instance backcourt endline since the foul happened in the backcourt lane). Thanks all
-Josh

Actually, techincally, for HS, put ball back into play with a throw-in at the division line for the offended team; in NCAA, put the ball back into play at the POI, which was an endline throw-in for B after a made basket.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

... in NCAA, put the ball back into play at the POI, which was an endline throw-in for B after a made basket.

Actually, I'm not positive, but I believe Intentional Technicals in NCAA are two shots and the ball at the division line; not POI.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Actually, I'm not positive, but I believe Intentional Technicals in NCAA are two shots and the ball at the division line; not POI.

Wow - You are correct for men. I assumed it was the same, but just did some digging, and found that the resumption of play is different for the two sides. POI for NCAA-W, division line for NCAA-M. Nice catch. My mistake.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Actually, techincally, for HS, put ball back into play with a throw-in at the division line for the offended team; in NCAA, put the ball back into play at the POI, which was an endline throw-in for B after a made basket.

That would be VERY incorrect.

Pg 135 NCAA Rulebook 2008-09

RESUMPTION OF PLAY: For any technical foul(s), play shall resume
at the point of interruption except for a single intentional
or a single flagrant technical foul. For a single intentional
or a single flagrant technical foul, the ball shall be awarded
to the offended team at a designated spot at the division
line on either side of the playing court.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

That would be VERY incorrect.

Pg 135 NCAA Rulebook 2008-09

RESUMPTION OF PLAY: For any technical foul(s), play shall resume
at the point of interruption except for a single intentional
or a single flagrant technical foul. For a single intentional
or a single flagrant technical foul, the ball shall be awarded
to the offended team at a designated spot at the division
line on either side of the playing court.

Actually, it's only half incorrect, and I corrected myself in post #25. There is no "intentional technical" foul in NCAA-W, therefore, as this is simply a player/substitute technical foul in NCAA-W, the resumption of play (in NCAA-W) from the OP would be at the POI, which was a throw-in for team B after a made basket on the endline. I was only incorrect for NCAA-M.

[jevaque]

Flagrant Technical Foul Penalty (Women) 10-3.13-17 Penalty and 10-4.8 and 9 Penalty. For any single flagrant technical foul, the ball shall be awarded to the offended team at the point of interruption.