Did I do this right? T at the end of 3rd Q

[agr8zebra]

Last second shot to end the 3rd Q. Shooter fouled by #H13, #H33 also in the area on the attempted block. #H33 who had been whining all night after ever call in her direction, gave me the look, I T her up. Time has expired.

We shot Three FT's for the attempted 3, then Two for the T. (Team V only make 1 of 5, end up losing by 2)

We start the 4th with the AP given to H, not V.

Did I do this right?

[bob jenkins]

Yes -- the T was in the 3Q so the "throw-in" part of the penalty does not carry over.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes -- the T was in the 3Q so the "throw-in" part of the penalty does not carry over.

In a sitch like this, when does the 3rd quarter end? In the OP, it looks like the try was over, the horn sounded and the "look" (and T) came after that. Wouldn't this fit into 5-6 Exc4? I am using an old book, I hope the rule ref is correct.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

gave me the look, I T her up.

the enforcement was correct -

I have to worry about a T for a "look" -
I guess you HTBT.

Originally Posted by Scratch85

In a sitch like this, when does the 3rd quarter end? In the OP, it looks like the try was over, the horn sounded and the "look" (and T) came after that. Wouldn't this fit into 5-6 Exc4? I am using an old book, I hope the rule ref is correct.

Keep hope alive! j/k

We have FTs for the foul on the attempted block so we shoot the T as well.

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

I have to worry about a T for a "look" -
I guess you HTBT.

My thoughts as well, if I gave a T for every dirty look...

[Clark Kent]

So had it just been common foul or the ball going out of bounds and the girl gives you a look (and you give her a T) then we administer the FTs at the start of the fourth (5-6 ex 4) and the ball awarded to the opposition of the girl who had the T?

Is that right or am I getting confused?

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

So had it just been common foul or the ball going out of bounds and the girl gives you a look (and you give her a T) then we administer the FTs at the start of the fourth (5-6 ex 4) and the ball awarded to the opposition of the girl who had the T?

Is that right or am I getting confused?

That is the way I am understanding it. In your sitch, the T occured after all "related activities" of the 3rd quarter were completed.

[M&M Guy]

5-6-2 Exception 3 is what you're looking for - "The quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed." So, in the OP, since the "dirty look" and subsequent T occurred before the FT's for the shooting foul had been completed, even though the T happened after the horn, it is still considered part of the current quarter.

In Superman's,...er,...Clark Kent's situation, since the look happened after the horn, and there was no other activity to be completed to end the quarter, the FT's and the throw-in for the T will be at the start of the 4th quarter.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

5-6-2 Exception 3 is what you're looking for - "The quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed." So, in the OP, since the "dirty look" and subsequent T occurred before the FT's for the shooting foul had been completed, even though the T happened after the horn, it is still considered part of the current quarter.

In Superman's,...er,...Clark Kent's situation, since the look happened after the horn, and there was no other activity to be completed to end the quarter, the FT's and the throw-in for the T will be at the start of the 4th quarter.

Thought the shooter was fouled. Now we have free throws before the period ends.

[agr8zebra]

Well, the look, about her 5th or 6th such "look", one each for the three fouls she got prior to this action, plus atleast 2 or 3 more on travel calls, and things that didn't go her way. My partner after stated, "She sure had the T coming" One very aggressive young lady who needs to control some emotion.

I was thinking the FT's were part of the 3rd Qtr. The teams were ready to play after the FT's but I had the timer put 60 seconds on the clock(normal time after the end of the period). I needed a break and felt the teams needed it also. Plus I wanted a little time to think about my decision, though I was the U, I wanted to think if we should go with AP or go with the actions that would normally follow a T.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Thought the shooter was fouled. Now we have free throws before the period ends.

In the OP, that is what happened. In CK's situation, he changed it to a non-shooting foul. That is why the enforcement changes - in the OP, the quarter had not ended because the 3 FT's for the shooting foul had not been completed. In CK's example, the quarter was complete (because there were no FT's to shoot), therefore the T is enforced at the start of the 4th quarter.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

In Superman's,...er,...Clark Kent's situation,

Way to go, genius, you just exposed his secret identity. Next thing you're going to tell us Dan_ref is really The Oracle.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Way to go, genius, you just exposed his secret identity. Next thing you're going to tell us Dan_ref is really The Oracle.

Damn. I thought no one really reads this stuff.

But I know I'll never give away the secret that Chuck Elias and Jurassic Referee are really the same. But what a perfect cover - one claims they're a Bosox fan, the other claims they're a Yankee fan. Brilliant!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Damn. I thought no one really reads this stuff.

But I know I'll never give away the secret that Chuck Elias and Jurassic Referee are really the same. But what a perfect cover - one claims they're a Bosox fan, the other claims they're a Yankee fan. Brilliant!

Wow, talk about cognitive dissonance.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Wow, talk about cognitive dissonance.

You mean that buzzing sound I hear in my head?