Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 567744)

Interesting timing....

I just got an email from the AD whining about how my two T's cost his girls the game.

I referred his comments to our commissioner without further discussion.

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 567752)

We fill out a report and send it to our commissioner, who sends it to the state.

The AD did tell me in his email, though, that they had already decided to pull the coach for the next game, though.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 567758)

And if you notice, I said the same thing you did - the 3 W's: wremind, warn, whack. :rolleyes: :D

Of course we don't throw out T's for the coach who is a step or two outside the box, especially before I've had a chance to remind them about it. And I would be curious as to the context of your partner's comment about "T's slow down the game". Can you help remind a coach to stay in the box instead of giving a T the first time? Sure. A T in that case would slow down the game. Can you help communicate with a coach and address their concerns instead of letting them vent to a point where it is hard to ignore their behavior? Sure. Sometime communication skills can help difuse a situation that would otherwise have to be addressed. But I hope they do not mean "avoid giving a T", even if the situation warrants.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 567761)

I guess we know what your partner was talking to the AD about after the game.

BTW, in your report to the state (assuming you do one for ejects), I'd be sure and mention both the coach meeting you at the locker room and the AD sending you the email. I'd include the email, too.

Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567764)

I tried to raise a few situations just to get a feel for what I was dealing with, but I wasn't going to force the guy to do a "thorough" pre-game...game actually went great, maybe we were lucky?

Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567764)

But your note above about reminding a coach to stay in the box instead of a T "the first time". If you are running by and say "coach please mind the box". Would you consider that a warning as if the next time he is a step out you are going to pop him? Or would you give that same "warning" again?

Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 567786)

Maybe you were lucky. But you did the right thing in trying to open some sort of pre-game dialog.


It's usually an escalating process. The first time might be a simple reminder as you go past, "Coach help us out by staying in your box." Or, "Coach, remember what those lines are for?" as you give them a little wink. The next time might be a little louder, so more people are aware, "Coach, we need you to stay in your box." That way, the next time it is obvious as to why the T was given. Of course, depending on the situation, I might skip step 1 or 2.

I've also tossed a coach for simply coaching his team. It happened to be after his 1st T, and he had been reminded about needing to be seated. I almost ran into him as I came up the court, so it was an "easy" T. He wasn't happy about being ejected in a close game, but he didn't have a real complaint because it was obvious how the situation evolved. I'm sure the next time it happens, he will remember to stay seated. I'm sure there are officials that will give multiple reminders, in order to "avoid the T". But I'm not sure how I can expain that to the other coach who is following the rules.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 567786)

But I'm not sure how I can expain that to the other coach who is following the rules.

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 567791)

I've seen this on the board a couple times already, and I dont know how rampant this is where others officiate, but I am yet to hear from an opposing coach about the other coach "getting away" with anything? So why would you explain to a coach who isn't asking a question?

Most of us joke, but its mostly true, that most coaches don't know the rules. Why would it be any different here? ;)

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 567706)

Whack!

Then I had to wait about a minute for him to take his sweet time getting off the court as he stared me down the whole way.

My partner said after the game he had my back and was all ready to T him up but that I just blew my whistle first.

Right.

Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 567748)

In transition & whenever there's a whistle, in addition to watching the players on the floor I like to sneak a peek at the clock, table & benches, and coaches.
Developing good game awareness has really helped me with correcting timing issues before everyone starts screaming, bringing my subs before the horn goes, granting coaches TO requests before they lose it.