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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 02:11pm
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Originally Posted by OHBBREF View Post
but the motion is continual from the gather through the lay up of the ball...

the motion of a jump stop, is a stop, which in my opinion is a stop of motion, therefore, I call it on the floor.
the explaination has always worked for me when I had to give it.
Coach he stopped!

Player dribbling down the left side of lane, jumpstops and gets hit and knocked to the floor?

if you call it going up, how did you make that determination?
Just b/c the feet stop, does this mean it has to be a "stop" from a CM standpoint? The rest of the body is probably moving as much as someone going for a layup as the ball comes up for the shot, just a brief change of direction of the ball as it comes down and then up (again same as a layup attempt)

As for your case of the jumpstopper getting floored, that is a very interesting question...why do we differentiate when a kid goes in for a layup, gets hit, and then passes the ball after the whistle vs. if he shoots it after the whistle? The action after the whistle has to at least partly determine what call you are going with doesn't it? In your case I would say no ft's b/c his motion, while he may have started to shoot with the jumpstop, I could not tell if that was something he was going to finish...however (as my alter ego takes over), if a kid goes in to attempt a layup and gets floored before he is able to complete any motion (pass or shot), we are probably all going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was going to shoot....so I see where I might have a conflict there...I still go back to this move being part of this kid's "habitual" movement....
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