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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 04:06pm
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If they are not players on either team you are officiating at the time you have no jurisdiction over them as far as dunking goes.

I did see one time where players from the host team were goofing off on the floor repeatedly at a tournament, and caused a situation where the ball couldn't be made live and the host team was accessed a technical foul at the start of their game.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 04:38pm
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 05:17pm
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Daryl ("Preacher" Long) and I had a game last Wednesday night and during our post-game dinner this type of play came up.


NFHS R10-S3-A3: "A player shall not grasp either basket during the time of the officials’ jurisdiction, dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball prior to or during the game or during any intermission until jurisdiction of the officials has ended. This item applies to all team members."


The blue and orange phrases in NFHS R1-S3-A3 are mutually exclusive.


The blue phrase deals with grasping either basket and Rule 2 defines a team basket and basket in this phrase has to refer to a team's basket. BUT, the orange phrase only refers to dunking or attempting to dunk a dead ball; it does not mention at which basket the dunk or attempted dunk must occur.

Therefore, Daryl and I agree it would be a TF in the OP.

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All good except that the definition of dunking specifies that it is into a basket...which has been defined as one of the two at each end of the court. By definition, any "basket" on the side of the court is not a "basket" at all; it is merely some object hanging on the wall. Since they're not baskets, the actions under discussion can't be a dunk at all. It is merely the throwing of a ball over some object.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 05:26pm
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MTD -- I usually enjoy your posts and find them educational and informative. Here however, I have to admit, I chuckled a bit and for a minute thought you were just pulling our legs. I think this, even for you, is a bit of a complicated reach.
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